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mr,mankowitz 

Post No. 804
02/14/2007 01:34 AM
  
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jus open a group called vc
then search your pc and upload ...
Von Cello 

Post No. 803
02/13/2007 04:02 PM
  
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Youtube, Mytube

From what I saw that report was not anti-Semitic. I bet there really are Israelis spying on radical Muslims in the U.S. Why not? I'm glad they're keeping an eye on them.

Anyway, do you know how to get a video on youtube? If so, could you help me put some Von Cello videos up there?
mr,mankowitz 

Post No. 802
02/13/2007 01:31 AM
  
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fox is antisemetic? no doubt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAoe26MaTew
Von Cello 

Post No. 801
02/11/2007 09:17 AM
  
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Von Lute

Von Cello 

Post No. 800
02/10/2007 11:04 PM
  
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Heeeeeeer's Johnny

John Dowland is definitley classical from the Rennaisance. Just because Sting sings your music, that does not make you into another genre. I heard Sting do one of his songs. It sounded good. But then again, other singers also sound good on his music. I always wonder why people will suddenly be into an older composer when some modern "star" performs their music, yet otherwise they would not. It's like when a classical piece will be in a movie and suddenly everyone thinks it is great. But it was great 200 years before that movie!
eaburke81 

Post No. 799
02/10/2007 10:03 PM
  
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That's Classic!

Some good info on classical music theory here Aaron....I'm looking to hear amd appreciate more classical music. I have heard a few peices from Debussy before and enjoy them emmensly: "Arabesque", "Clare De Lune" and other peices. My mom has an old cassette tape-copy of an album from the eighties which was comprised of Debussy compositions played on the synthesizer technologies of the day....it was by a Japanese musician by the name of Tomita, I believe. This was a favorite of mine when I was younger, but sadly, the cassette player on my CD boom-box is broken.
These days I am listening to a CD which could be classified "classical crossover" (unless you call it something else). It's the latest album by Sting entitled "Songs from the Labyrinth", recorded with lutenist Edin Karamazov. Sting performs songs written by 16th Century composer and lute player John Dowland. Fans of Shakespeare and Scottish poet Robert Burns take note! This is maybe more Celtic or Rennaisance, or baroque music, but it was in the classical section of Borders and I deffinately reccomend it.
Von Cello 

Post No. 798
02/10/2007 06:39 PM
  
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Minute Made

You must be referring to the Minute Waltz by Frederick Chopin. It actually takes more than a minute, but they didn't have watches back then so who knew?
mr,mankowitz 

Post No. 797
02/10/2007 03:25 PM
  
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history

you give me ten minuets and ill give you the waltz
Von Cello 

Post No. 796
02/10/2007 10:35 AM
  
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Cristobo Columbo

I know Columbus sailed for Spain, but I believe he was actually Italian. Some think he was a Morano Jew. I believe it is established that some of his crew were Jews escaping the Inquisition, and his look out, the guy who first saw America was Jewish. (So we were in on this New World stuff, right from the start.)

Violino, viola, violoncello, piano, and many other instruments were created in Italy and have Italian names. The Italians did not invent music. Lord knows there was great music in the Temple in Israel way before there was an Italy, or even a Rome. There was music in Greece, and of course Africa and Asia too. But the Italians were "instrumental" in creating what has become known as "classical" music. But classical music has its roots in the music of the church which has its roots in the Temple in Jerusalem.
mr,mankowitz 

Post No. 795
02/10/2007 01:29 AM
  
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will this be on th exam?

Von Cello 

Post No. 794
02/09/2007 11:28 PM
  
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When composers were composers

Today the news here in the U.S. was Anna Nicole all the time. You would think that nothing important was going on anywhere in the world. Today, to be a celebrity you don't need any particular talent or intelligence. In fact, those things may be a liabilty. But several hundred years ago, to be famous, in most cases, you had to be talented and smart.

The Italians provided many such people during the Renaissance like Da Vinci and Micaelangelo, but they also provided many of the early great composers such as Monteverdi, Palestrina, Corelli, Gabrelli, Vivaldi, Locatelli, Torelli, Donazetti, Frescabaldi, Samartini, and Crazy Sal.
Von Cello 

Post No. 793
02/09/2007 01:18 PM
  
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Giving credit where it is due

The Italians were very active at the beginning of the classical music tradition. I'm talking from the time of Columbus onward. I suppose it was part of the whole Rennaisance. They invented the staff, the clefs, and most of the notation. So since they were already using words like Allegro and Adagio, the new composers from other countries did the same. I even use the Italian most of the time. Some people used their own language. I think Wagner and Mahler used German. I think Benjamin Brittain used English. I use English when the Italian sounds anachronistic, but if I want the music to get louder I will use crescendo. Why not give credit where it is due?
mr,mankowitz 

Post No. 792
02/09/2007 01:09 PM
  
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gabeldygook

maybe im overdoing it but y do music guys use italian? why not jus speak english? mayby these terms ARE in fact now english. I mean lawyers speak latin and musicians in italian. tradition? or maybe it doesnt hurt anyone?
Von Cello 

Post No. 791
02/09/2007 01:04 PM
  
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Fun with Form

The more you know about the form of music, the more you can appreciate it. This is especially true of classical music. For instance, the first movement of most symphonies, string quartets and other types of instrumental music follows the Sonata Allegro form. It goes basically as follows:

1. Intro (optional)

2. Exposition -
1st theme
transition
2nd theme (usually in a different key)
development -
creative usage of the two themes
recapitulation -
1st theme
transition
2nd theme (in the same key)

3. Coda (optional)

Once you know the form, it is very interesting to see how different composers play with it and innovate changes. Haydn is credited as having created the form. Mozart was a master of it. Beethoven was the first to stretch it almost to the breaking point. Almost all of the Romantic composers used this form. In other words, it dominated classical music for about 100 years!

Debussy, Ravel and a few others were the ones to first totally break away into a new organization of sound. For this reason Debussy is called "the father of modern music".

If you think about it, rock music went back to a simple version of this form. Think of the verse as the 1st theme and the chorus as the 2nd theme. If there is a jam in the middle that would be your development section. And, as we discussed, there is often a coda at the end.

Haydn Lives!
Von Cello 

Post No. 790
02/09/2007 08:45 AM
  
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The End

Yes, it sounds like that repeating riff at the end of Peace Train is a coda. A coda usually will not be an idea from another piece. It is usually formed to some extent from what was in the song. At the very least it will be in the same key, but usually it will have a similar rhythm or a melody that sounds like it fits in. A perfect example is Hey Jude by the Beatles. It has that long ending that repeats and repeats and seems to go on forever. It is a melody that you never hear in the song, and yet it fits perfectly.

I suppose you can think of the coda as a ribbon in a girl's hair. It is just a little touch to make the package complete. Last night I saw many such "packages" at the wedding. It was on Ocean Parkway in a fancy synagogue where mini skirts are stiil "in", even in the dead of winter.

By the way, that part of Brooklyn is now hard to move into. House prices are in the multiple millions! It's a different world than Canarsie!

The end. (Coda)
eaburke81 

Post No. 789
02/08/2007 05:35 PM
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Coda-pendant (on Von Cello's vast musical knowledge)

So I got a question: If a composer or musician is always going to end a song no matter what, for their is of course to everything a begining, middle, and end, wouldn't a coda be considered kind of an after-thought? A little, un-connected peice of music just floating there after the final chord?
I believe Cat Stevens puts a guitar and strings coda at the end of "Peace Train", and it's a fairly awesome riff I may add, but it just fades out after a few minutes and it doesn't sound anything like the actual song....would the riff be a song Cat was working on, but didn't have time to put the wole thing on an album? I guess I don't really understand "the validity" of the coda. I do like saying "coda", though....Coda. Coda. Coda. That's fun!
Von Cello 

Post No. 788
02/08/2007 01:51 PM
  
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Here comes the Brooklyn Bride

I'll be playing a wedding tonight in Brooklyn just a few miles from Canarsie. Maybe if I climb up a tree I'll be able to see your house!
NealSF 

Post No. 787
02/08/2007 10:24 AM
  
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very cool, mr. von cello
Von Cello 

Post No. 786
02/07/2007 04:19 PM
  
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Neal, this one's for you!

I just found out that Von Cello is linked to a page about dining in San Francisco! Why? Because we discussed it in the good ole guestbook!

Check it out:
http://san-francisco-food-swicki.eurekster.com/wine+and+food/
Von Cello 

Post No. 785
02/07/2007 04:15 PM
  
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The tail tells the tale

Well that makes sense. A coda is the tail of a piece of music. Just like a bird, sometimes you need a tail to make it complete.
mr,mankowitz 

Post No. 784
02/07/2007 03:36 PM
  
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as i spic spanish it means tail in spanish and italian
mr,mankowitz 

Post No. 783
02/07/2007 03:35 PM
  
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as i spic spanish it means tail in spanish and italian
Von Cello 

Post No. 782
02/07/2007 03:20 PM
  
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Bird Song

"Bird Song" is by the Grateful Dead. And to tell you the truth...it has a coda!

I'm sure somewhere on the web you can download it. After the last chorus there is a series of chords and then a jam. That jam is the coda. On the Garcia Album it is short, but live they sometimes go on for several minutes. But guess what...Beethoven was the guy who first expanded the coda. Which is one among many reasons why I consider him to be the first rock star!
mr,mankowitz 

Post No. 781
02/07/2007 02:54 PM
  
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u r right however i have the song . Its on a different cd.
my sisters bird sings that song ....
you cant take that away from me
Von Cello 

Post No. 780
02/07/2007 02:37 PM
  
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Cole Gershwin

Cole Porter is not George Gershwin.

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