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Post No. 782
02/07/2007 03:20 PM
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Bird Song

"Bird Song" is by the Grateful Dead. And to tell you the has a coda!

I'm sure somewhere on the web you can download it. After the last chorus there is a series of chords and then a jam. That jam is the coda. On the Garcia Album it is short, but live they sometimes go on for several minutes. But guess what...Beethoven was the guy who first expanded the coda. Which is one among many reasons why I consider him to be the first rock star!

Post No. 781
02/07/2007 02:54 PM
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u r right however i have the song . Its on a different cd.
my sisters bird sings that song ....
you cant take that away from me
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Post No. 780
02/07/2007 02:37 PM
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Cole Gershwin

Cole Porter is not George Gershwin.

Post No. 779
02/07/2007 02:28 PM
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no problemo as i have ella fitzgerald and louey armstrong doing cole porter
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Post No. 778
02/07/2007 01:43 PM
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An example that YOU can understand?


Well, there is North Da Coda, and South Da Coda!

But seriously folks...

Do you know the song, "Summertime" by George Gershwin? See if you can find a cut of in on the web. If it is a traditional version you will hear that the words to the song end and then there is a little extra music at the end that is different than what came before but still fits with the mood of the piece. That is the coda!

If you find a good cut, leave me a link and I'll check it out to make sure it follows the original version and has a coda. You never know, especially with jazz, whether or not someone is playing the tune as written.

Post No. 777
02/07/2007 11:46 AM
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please give an example that i can understand....
Von Cello 

Post No. 776
02/07/2007 09:25 AM
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Mr. Know-It-All

I'm glad you asked. A coda is an extra section of music at the end of a song or a movement of a classical piece that serves to bring the music to a satisfying conclusion. Traditionally codas were short and sweet. Beethoven, however, was not one to be short or sweet. He expanded the coda and would even add sections after the coda. Today most people would not even notice such a thing. But back then that must have freaked people out!

Post No. 775
02/07/2007 01:21 AM
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whats a coda
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Post No. 774
02/06/2007 12:20 PM
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The cellist hit a homerun!

I wonder how sports became so big that you actually have a section of the TV news devoted to it. I always thought that there should be a section about music.

"All right, the New York Philharmonic did an amazing job playing Beethoven's 4th yesterday. On the podium was Neville Mariner. The oboe solo was full of emotion and the coda was just wild!

Downtown at the Blue Note Horace Silver was ripping up the stage with a lightning fast version of Coltrane's Out Of This World.

In the clubs we had Von Cello at Kenny's. Boy that guy can sure rock out on the cello. And now, on to sports with Rocco Mazula. Rocco?"

Post No. 773
02/05/2007 04:29 PM
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DA Guestbook!

Von Cello wrote:

"...or the Miss Universe competition in which only earthlings participate"!

You sure about that earthlings part, Aaron?

Well, I don't know why they call it the "Super Bowl" either...I don't follow football much. Perhaps it's becuase athletes in general get millions of dollars to do cereal adds? That tackling other players so much makes footbal stars "Bow-legged"? Get it?

I do know who won the big game, though, 'cause I watched it from "The Built Ford Tough Kick-Off Show" right down to the final touchdown. It was the Colts 29-17. I had thought the Bears would do it from how the first quarter went, but MVP Peyton Manning and the Colts really found their groove after the 2nd...not that I really cared who was going to win anyway I was rooting for the Bears only as a fan of the old SNL sketch with Mike Myers and Chris Farley: "Who is our favorite football team? DA BEARS! Who do we root for? DA BEARS! Why do we like football so much? DA BEERS". Who is our favorite coach? MIKE DITKA"!
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Post No. 772
02/05/2007 01:52 PM
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Post No. 771
02/05/2007 10:48 AM
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quarter pounder back

who won? who played ?
i recall my dad planning for a week before that game
hed buy his drinks and nachos and hed sleep late then wake up electrified. he had his bro Jack over to join him.
dad was a workingman and few things really broke his routine of
work ear shit work sleep tv mall handjob every sunday etc
That game stands out as does thanksgiving when he had vacation...... o yes, mybarmitsva was another day wen he was really quite excited....
as 4 the hj they never used to close that door at night and we could hearem down the hall on sunday morn!
Von Cello 

Post No. 770
02/04/2007 05:42 PM
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Super Bowl of Corn Flakes

Edward, thanks for that picture. It's great! It will fit in perfectly.

Yes, today is the day of the Super Bowl, a day when males across the U.S. sit in front of a television and watch big men in tights and helmuts throw balls around and tackle each other. Hmmm...

The one thing I don't understand is why do they call it the Super BOWL? Is it because the stadiums look like bowls to people from outer space? Could it be because the players like to bowl on the off season? Or is it because they knock each other down like pins?

I suppose it's better than the World Series in which only one country participates, or the Miss Universe competition in which only earthlings participate!

Post No. 769
02/04/2007 02:29 PM
Email eaburke81  go to the Homepage of eaburke81
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A Sabbatical Super Bowl Sunday (Go Bears!)

Hey There Von Cello - I'm not really "on sabbatical", as you said, I just haven't posted in a few days. I've been busy with my new job and my volunteer theater stuff and all.
I have kept up with your's and Neal's Zappa conversation and I'm glad to have found someother people who like and appreciate Frank as much as I do. My friends don't really know what to think when I play an FZ song for them....they're speechless and dumfounded. No "prophet" is accpted in his own country, I guess, and Zappa certainly wasn't when he first started touring with the Mothers....he wasn't even that well liked by his early bandmates.

Anyway, I do have a picture of myself I can send you, not that I'm anything good to look at. It was taken a few years ago by my fellow WWPV e-board for our website when I was a juinor at SMC. (This was back when I had sideburns!) Check your e-mail shortly!
Von Cello 

Post No. 768
02/04/2007 10:30 AM
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If he were still here I'd tell him blablabla

Mr. Mankowitz you are right. I haven't told you in about thirty years how much I miss you picking up tough kids by their collars and speaking to them calmly with hundred dollar words.

Actually, I am happy for all my friends who come to this guestbook. The thing I find strange is that the conversations seem to always be three way. Neal was gone for a while and Edward sat in. Now Neal has been posting and Edward is on sabbatical. Hey, everyone can come and go as they please but it's just something I noticed. Perry used to be a regular but I don't know what's going on with him.

Edward, if you are still out there, I just wanted to say that since you have become a "guestbook regular", if you want, you can send me a picture and I'll put you up on the site here:

(See bottom of page.)

Post No. 767
02/04/2007 03:06 AM
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stop and smell like the roses

the sad part isnt that good folks die young but that the living dont appreciate others while they are alive. How often have we said If he were still here Id tell him blablabla or Id visit him more often...STOP and think about the folks in your life and imagine they are gone...tell them now how you feel.....i know it would make their day!!
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Post No. 766
02/03/2007 11:48 AM
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Let's Get Critical

Do you remember that Olivia Newton John song from the 80's called, "Let's Get Physical"? The words went: "Let's get physical, physical. I want to get physical. Let's get into physical". Well, I had a girlfriend who used to criticize me a lot, so I would sing that song replacing "physical" with "critical"!

Although I'm sure Zappa is turning over in his grave being in the same post as Olivia Newton John, I guess his thing was to be a critic, a satirist, not one to propose solutions. He seemed to be moving more in that direction toward the end of his life. He was going before congress to speak out about free speach, etc. Maybe by now he would have been making suggestions or taking contructive actions.

Do you ever listen to Don Imus? He has a radio show called Imus in the Morning. He tends to be a somewhat bitter critic of our culture, yet he spends a lot of his free time at the Imus Ranch in New Mexico, which is a place that he created to give kids with cancer a western ranch experience. From what he says, many of the kids die within weeks of being at the ranch.

I'm not saying that Zappa had to create a ranch for terminally ill kids, but he might have balanced out some of his anger and criticism with good works as he got older. After all, Imus must be in his seventies. Look at Warren Buffet. He just donated something like 30 billion dollars to Bill Gate's charity. A few years ago he was sitting on that money. But he lived long enough to get to do something good with it. It's sad that a guy like Zappa was cut down so young. Same could be said for so many great musicians: Hendrix, Joplin, Duane Allman, Mozart, Mendelssohn, Schubert. The world would have been a different place if any one of them lived to a ripe old age.

Life is strange that way. Opps...there I go being critical!

Post No. 765
02/03/2007 11:26 AM
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True, no proposal given, just lashing. An attempt at humor through anger and frustration , although I thought some of it was funny.
Von Cello 

Post No. 764
02/02/2007 11:58 PM
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Bless it's pointed little head

Oh, THAT point! Yes, that was perhaps the point. It just seemed to come with a lot of other bagage. Maybe I didn't find it "funny" because I have suffered a lot because of the lack of respect that good music gets in our culture. So it is more sad than funny to me to hear his anger. But it is also challenging and insightful, which is what makes Zappa so interesting.

The stuff he said about "Debbie" is so true, although today not many girls are named Debbie, and the highest grossing music is rap which is geared more toward a Kanicha, or a Katrina. I almost long for the days of Debbie. Now the music is about slapping bitches and being a bad ass. In some ways it went from bad to worse.

But I don't see what Zappa was proposing. Better music education? Making kids learn to appreciate modern classical music? But he seems to put down that kind of music too. So what is he suggesting? That society is right to not care about music? It seems like he is lashing out at things without a proposal for anything better.

Post No. 763
02/02/2007 04:01 PM
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what\'s the point?

That's a good point. What is Zappa's point? Maybe to be as funny as possible. He himself was a great American composer, as well as a social satirist. He's probably expressing his frustration with the fact that composers can't always make a living composing. He wrote "modern music" and listened to it a lot, so he certainly liked that genre. I just thought it was a very funny speech, and very biting, too.
Von Cello 

Post No. 762
02/02/2007 03:55 PM
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That's my daddy!

Hopefully your children will remember your pearls of wisdom. I always found my father to be a deep thinker and one who would point out things I never considered. Here are some of his memorable phrases:

The plans of mice and men oft go astray.

People end up where they want to be.

Don't believe everything you read.

When he taught me to drive, we got in the car and he said, "The first thing you have to know about driving is that everyone on the road is CRAZY!"

Post No. 761
02/02/2007 02:42 PM
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what is a deleney book?

as a daddy im glad to read that your dads ideas ring strongly in your kepey i have often wondered if my advise willberemembered by my kids
for whom the bell tolls
for whom the cello plays
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Post No. 760
02/02/2007 01:48 PM
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Good ole Zappa! He doesn't just make a point, he rips your eyebrows off!

Overall I agree with a lot of what he is saying, but he seems to be angry at the poor university composers. I suppose you could say that are part of the system that he resents, but what are they supposed to do?

I wonder what his real point is. Does he really want there to be no modern music? Does he hate society, America, modern life? What would he have people do?

When I was in my first year of college I went to see the Boston Symphony with my dad. We sat near some of those "blue haired ladies", you know, the rich older women with their large pearls and starched hair. I said to my father, "What do THEY know about Beethoven?" And he said, rather sternly, "THEY are YOUR audience. Don't insult your audience". I thought about that for many years and I finally realized that WHOEVER it is who comes to hear your music, you should be thankful. To each his own, but I have never forgotten that "college lesson".

Post No. 759
02/02/2007 10:18 AM
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Frank Zappa at his funniest...

Von Cello, you'll get a kick out of this one.
Von Cello 

Post No. 758
02/01/2007 07:33 AM
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Very Fundy

It's funny but a substitute band teacher came up to me today and asked me, "What would happen in an orchestra if the conductor walked away in the middle of a piece. Would they finish the piece?" I said, "Yes". He said, "Would they do a good job?" I said, "Sure". He asked, "Then why do they need a conductor?" I said, "To raise funds for the orchestra!"

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