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Post No. 2432
01/13/2009 06:52 AM
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Steve, Steve, Steve of the jungle ...

Oh well, I guess you can live in the jungle and I'll live in the civilized world.

Anyway, to me there are more important things than dying for Israel. Like dying for freedom, justice, human rights. To the extent that Israel stands for these things then dying for Isreal is laudable. But if one is fighting for a country just because he wants a place from which to kick everyone else's ass, that is not a worthwhile goal. If I thought that is what Israel was doing I would not support it. But I think most Israelis truly want peace and would not fire one shot if shots were not being fired at them.

Post No. 2431
01/13/2009 05:58 AM
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the law of the jungles is written on the leaves

what have you died for? what bdo you believe in strong enuf that you have died? NOTHING so i am to conclude that you believe not strongly. If im wrong using your own logic then we are both wrong..youve never died for israel yet its importnant to you but not are a rabbi at heart and i guess im a commando..If we had been born back in israel 2000 yrs ago,youd be rabbi and id be fighting..
even lions have rules to live the jungle. The law of the jungle is not dog eat dog, its survival is best in THE GROUP.cooperating sharing .Lions live like this without written law or GOD.its the real law of the jungle..never was never will be DOG EAT DOG..thats chaos and the jungle is very well organized in groups subgroups leadership ranking and sharing love caring aLL WITHOUT GOD OR POLICE OR LAW..THATS BURKES LAW
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Post No. 2430
01/12/2009 07:54 PM
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Franklin D. Roosevelt

About two hours north of New York City lies the home of Franklin Roosevelt, the president during much of WWII. I have been there a few times and find it a very interesting place. You can actually see the office where he sat with Churchill and planned his strategy against Hitler. You can still see the old furniture. You can take a walk out back and imagine what was going through his head when he took in the fresh air outside on his property.

One thing that is stressed in the exhibit is the fact that there was no guarantee that the Allies would win. The war went on for several years. Millions of people, and I mean millions, died. Hitler was a fearsome enemy and Roosevelt threw all he had against him.

Hitler's belief was that might made right. That he had to breed a "master race" of people who were unshackled by what he called the infections that the Jews put on humanity, namely morality and conscience. Through all kinds of weird occult rituals the Nazis tried to train people to be able to commit the worst kinds of brutality without flinching, without regret, without care.

Roosevelt was leading a nation that stood for freedom and democracy, that believed in equality, that said that "all men are created equal", and stressed the ideals of compassion and fair play. And who won? The anti-Jewish master race or the people of Judeo-Christian morality?

You can't say the U.S. was stronger. It was a close fight and even the president did not know who would win.

If Hitler won then you could argue that the worship of power is the ultimate road to success. But he lost. His idea lost. His world vision lost. The compassionate vision won. The "all men are created equal" people won. Kindness beat brutality. Love beat hate.

To me this is one of the greatest arguments for the belief that there is a compassionate "father" above us in heaven. Because we are born with an innate understanding of love, of equality, of compassion. People know that unbridled power is wrong, and when it gets out of hand, they band together to bring it down. Why is that? It didn't have to be that way. But, in fact, we live in a world where the fittest do survive, and the fittest are the most moral, the most kind, the most loving. This planet crushes the haters and spits them out.

Perhaps that's why they say, "God is love".

Steve, with your belief that might makes right, and the strongest man wins, you are on the side of the haters ... the losers of history. It is amazing to me that you stand with Israel, not out of love of the Jewish Bible, or love of Jewish morality, or love of Jewish destiny, but simply out of the belief that might makes right and you have to kick ass or get yours kicked. Sure, you have to be strong. You have to defend yourself. You have to be willing to fight and even die for your beliefs, BUT your beliefs have to be worth dying for.

People are always looking around and deciding who to support. If I was not Jewish and thought that all Jews thought like you, I would not support the Jews. I would support those who are struggling to make the world a better, more compassionate, more moral place. Not the ones who want to kick everyone else's ass! And that is why the world felt sympathy for the Jews after WWII. And that is why they voted to let the Jews go back home. It was out of compassion for a people who went like lambs to the slaughter, like the way Jesus went to the cross.

Now, today, many of those same people criticize Israel for defending itself. They say, "Aha, now Israel is acting like a Nazi". But I know that this is not true. LN knows it too or she would not be a supporter. Israel cannot act exactly like Jesus because Israel is not going to come back from the dead. Israel has to stay alive. But Israel seeks peace. Israel seeks a better world. And that goodness is Israel's greatest strength. NOT American bombs and rockets. It's Israel's foundation in morality, the morality of the Bible, that keeps people around the world rooting for her success.
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Post No. 2429
01/12/2009 05:08 PM
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So true ...

Read it, and it is right on. Here's the end:

As long as we continue to subsidize Gaza's extreme demographic armament, young Palestinians will likely continue killing their brothers or neighbors. And yet, despite claiming that it wants to bring peace to the region, the West continues to make the population explosion in Gaza worse every year. By generously supporting UNRWA's budget, the West assists a rate of population increase that is 10 times higher than in their own countries. Much is being said about Iran waging a proxy war against Israel by supporting Hezbollah and Hamas. One may argue that by fueling Gaza's untenable population explosion, the West unintentionally finances a war by proxy against the Jews of Israel.

If we seriously want to avoid another generation of war in Gaza, we must have the courage to tell the Gazans that they will have to start looking after their children themselves, without UNRWA's help. This would force Palestinians to focus on building an economy instead of freeing them up to wage war. Of course, every baby lured into the world by our money up to now would still have our assistance.

If we make this urgently needed reform, then by at least 2025 many boys in Gaza -- like in Algeria -- would enter puberty as only sons. They would be able to look forward to a more secure future in a less violent society.

If the West prefers calm around Gaza even before 2025, it may consider offering immigration to those young Palestinians only born because of the West's well-meant but cruelly misguided aid. In the decades to come, North America and Europe will have to take in tens of millions of immigrants anyway to slow the aging of their populations. If, say, 200,000 of them are taken from the 360,000 boys coming of age in Gaza in the next 15 years, that would be a negligible move for the big democracies but a quantum leap for peace in the Near East.

Many of Gaza's young -- like in much of the Muslim world -- dream of leaving anyway. Who would not want to get out of that strip of land but the international NGOs and social workers whose careers depend on perpetuating Gaza's misery?

Post No. 2428
01/12/2009 04:55 PM
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Von Cello wrote: Yes, Hilter was stopped by the Allies who banded together and defeated him, but if you know the history you would know that the victory of the Allies was far from certain.

Indeed, a.o. the fact that he lost precious time in expecting and preparing for (against his advisers) the Allied attack of D-Day 1944 to happen at another place, helped us to win. But it was against maybe not all, but quite a few odds.

Hate to be OT, but this is a very good read and could help when needed to clarify how Gaza got to what it is:

except for the last but one paragraph.
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Post No. 2427
01/12/2009 04:41 PM
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Misunderstanding the concept of God

"God helps those who help themselves."

The Jewish concept of God is not some guy in the sky that does everything for you. Even when the Jews were in the desert they constantly had to struggle. The main promise God makes in the Bible to the Jews is that they will survive and eventually be brought back into their land. But God never said He would carry them back on angels' wings. Even when they got Israel the first time they had to fight and many Jews had to die. So there were hardships, but in the end the Jews survived and entered the "promised land".

Same thing now. The Jews have to fight for the land, but in the end, at least so far, things have gone remarkably according to the plan laid out in the Torah.

And if your point is that "money and brians" helps the Jews survive, who gave them their brains? And who gave them their money? One of the main reasons the Jewish community in general (not all) does well financially is because Jews were persecuted and forced to live all over the world. This made the HAVE to get involved with banking, loans, investing, international trade. So here again, one can see the hand of God.

God in the Bible tells the Jews that they will be tested and they will be purified like iron in a fire. The Torah tells Jews they will suffer, they will have to fight, they will teeter on the brink of disaster, but God says, "I swear by My holy Name" that you will survive throughout time and "see My salvation".

It sounds unbelievable, and yet .... just look at the reality. The Jews did suffer, that made them smarter and taught them how to succeed in the world, and they are still here!

Post No. 2426
01/12/2009 03:28 PM
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in the case of israel its simply money.
a lobby with gelt and brains..if god existed israel wouldnt have any would depr=end on the bookand all comes odwn to people fearing capture if they break the fairly written law,,if you feel u can get away with it then many do it,and go uncaught while few are caught..
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Post No. 2425
01/12/2009 02:59 PM
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The bigger they are...

If your point is that a weaker one wins by getting an even stronger one on his side, that may be true, but who put that stronger one there? For instance, in the story of Chanukah, the Jews were fighting against the much larger Syrian Greeks. It looked like the Jews were going to loose but just then a bigger power attacked the Syrians and the Jews won! There was no lobbying, it was just "fate" or "the hand of God" that made it happen.

Perhaps it was coincidence, but in the case of the Jews the coincidences just keep coming and comiing. Same thiing happened when the Babylonians exiled the Jews. Jeremiah said they'd be back in 70 years and lo and behold the Persians come in and cruch Babylon!

Same thing happened in modern times. The Nazis thought they'd put an end to the Jews, but lo and behold the U.S. comes in and crushes the Nazis. Next thing you know the Jews are back again!

Maybe more important than "might" is intelligence, moral behavior, and even luck. But any unbiased observer would be amazed at how all these situations happened that led to the survival of the Jews.

King David in the Psalms said something like, "We escaped like a bird from a trap. We escaped and the trap caught our enemy. Who is like the Lord our God?"

And heres' the amazing part, the Psalms were written BEFORE the Babylonians, the Romans, the Syrians, and the Nazis.

Was David just lucky that this happened over and over again to his people? You may say yes, but it does not strike me as a logical answer. If this happened to the Jews, why doesn't it happen to everyone? Or even better, why doesn't it happen to anyone? What other nation has been attacked so many times by so many much larger nations and survived time and again while their attackers have fallen?

You, Canarsie, may find this meaningless, but there are a lot of people, including non-Jews who have taken note of this.
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Post No. 2424
01/12/2009 01:21 PM
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King of De Nile

Here you go again. When you can't find a good response to a point you make a joke or change the subject. Why can't you just agree that a good point has been made, or if you have a better answer, make a counter point?

The pont is that history shows that the strong do not always win. In fact, the history of the Jews shows that a tiny but moral nation has been able to outlive all of the giants that tried with all their might to destroy it.

By the way, Jesus was also a believer that morality was stronger than might. By allowing himself to be killed he became much more famous and had a much stronger influence on the world than it would have been had he fought back. The one who killed him, Pilae, was a mightly Roman general. Who follows him today? But look at how many followers Jesus has!

Post No. 2423
01/12/2009 01:08 PM
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david beat goliath by making a powerful lobby in goliathes cousins house
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Post No. 2422
01/12/2009 01:06 PM
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What can we learn from David and Goliath?

Yes, Hilter was stopped by the Allies who banded together and defeated him, but if you know the history you would know that the victory of the Allies was far from certain. For instance, Hitler was working on the atom bomb. In fact, it was one of his scientists who gave the U.S. the plans. So if the timing was a little different Hitler would have had the A bomb and he probably would have won. Then all the Jews in the world would have been rounded up and killed.

But that did not happen!

Who was responsible for the timinig? It certainly had nothing to do with might.

The fact is, moral nations seem to survive and evil nations or movements seem to fall. Yes, evil does have the ablilty to last for a while, but good always seems to triumph. The Babylonians fell, the Romans fell, the Nazis fell, the USSR fell. All of these movements are essentially gone today. Some of the people or their decendents remain, but the group is gone, the ideology is gone or discredited. Yet the tiny nation of Jews is still here. The group is still intact, the ideology is exactly the same after thousands of years.

So your thesis that might makes right and the most powerful deserves to be the king, actually doesn't seem to work in this world. In fact, the nation most responsible for promoting the concept of morality has outlived all the giants.

David beat Goliath, and he does it again and again!


Post No. 2421
01/12/2009 10:25 AM
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nazis were defeated by might..the good ol usa..and hitler was an idiot who was stopped by a bigger bad boy ,,the usa..
god doesnt exist so how else could we explain hitlers defeat??

Post No. 2420
01/12/2009 09:41 AM
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Of the fittest?

Canarsie, you must be kidding! If u r right, then please explain just how did Israel survive in '67? And take what happened at the Syrian front in '73 - how?

And ... and ... why?

Or am I misunderstanding what u r trying to say?

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Post No. 2419
01/12/2009 08:30 AM
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Jewish vs. Nazi Morality

its the one who has the most force and that one should be the king.

I hope you realize that this is exactly what Hitler said. You really don't understand Jewish morality, do you?

Think about this: if might makes right, then how come the Nazis were defeated. And if the one with the most force should be king, how did the powerless Jews survive, and even regain control of their ancient homeland without lifting a sword?

Did you ever consider that the one most "fit" to survive could be the one with the highest morals?

Post No. 2418
01/12/2009 08:04 AM
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godless great people and godfearing bad people by me

its the one who has the most force and that one should be the king.if god gave us israel then if another religion says its theirs can they go to war for it and could israel defend itself and if israel won would it be survival of the fittest?

god is a jerk if he created this world and since god is never a jerk there is no god.the proof is in the scooterpie i just threw at your table in the cafeteria..
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Post No. 2417
01/12/2009 07:53 AM
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Canarise, you say survival of the fittest is the way of the world. How do you define the fittest? Is it the one who can kick everyone else's ass? Or is it the one who is the most moral?

Post No. 2416
01/12/2009 06:00 AM
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Until they love their children more

than they hate us (said Golda Meir) ... sadly will still take a looooooon time:

Hamas Booby Trapped School and Zoo

Post No. 2415
01/12/2009 01:05 AM
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yes survival of the fittest..When you say jews have a god gvn right to israel u scare me and many israelis and american jews cause if god didnt exist youd say give israel away and we are bk in the thanks..i think we treat others as we want to be treated and accrdn to u=our personally lov to see 3 or 5 jewish countries..israel. .2 more in s america 2 more in europe

why not?? there are catholic countries all right to exist and live is my heart..

wat right do u have to be now readin this with central heat while millions are starving to death elsewhere?are they lazy? or were they born into it??
wat right do we have to watch DR HOUSE while others are in prison for nothing with no trial..RIGHTS?? ill take my friends anyday over rights
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Post No. 2414
01/11/2009 09:55 PM
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Can you find my book on this page?

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Post No. 2413
01/11/2009 09:38 PM
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Who said strings were not hot?

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Post No. 2412
01/11/2009 04:25 PM
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A brave Muslim woman speaks out
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Post No. 2411
01/11/2009 02:21 PM
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Survival of the Fittest

You know, Hitler believed in Darwin's idea of "Survival of the Fittest". You seem to believe the same. In fact, Hitler accused the Jews of going against the God of nature by demanding that humanity follow laws of morality and conscience. In fact, he said it was "Jewish impudence" to insist that there was such a thing as the conscience. He felt that might made right and therefore he set about to create a "master race".

Do you agree with Hitler?

Post No. 2410
01/11/2009 02:15 PM
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its about who can kick whos ass.. simple..
thats why we have laws..not to protect the other guy from us but to protect us from the bigger ass kicker..if you felt you were the biggest ass kicker youd say f/'k law.. thats where we get dictators ..after defeating dictators people form democracy but then again within the democracy they try to rob grab kill and become powerful..
reality hurts i know but its reality,,we are animals and law is to protect the weak from the strong.i love law .
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Post No. 2409
01/11/2009 02:10 PM
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you cant just kick a guy take his money and run,thats not right unless you need the money and he is related to the guy who took yours..

I don't even know how to respond to this. Could you give as an example the situation in Israel? How can we determine who should control the land of Israel? Is it based on whoever has the might at any particular moment? If so, then if the Arabs can get stronger in the future, would you agree that they should get the land? Is it all really all about who can kick who's ass? Or is there some better way to make a determination?

Post No. 2408
01/11/2009 01:53 PM
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if you write the law then you have the right..but theres no higher authority than the guy who has the power the force to enfoce the law..
you make a law and yyou enforce it ITS LAW..there is right and wrong based on ethics and treating others as you want to be treated but theres also geting for yourself what others have as well even if they say cant just kick a guy take his money and run,thats not right unless you need the money and he is related to the guy who took yours..

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