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Von Cello
Weekend Warior
7/1/02 12:57:24 AM 24.90.139.161
Two gigs this weekend. One
at the Plaza and one in a beach club in New Rochelle. The New Rochelle
one was great. It was a jazz trio with sax, keyboard, and electric
cello. I walked bass lines and played melodies and took solos. It was a
lot of fun, and we were video taped by the agent who hopes to sell the
group for many other affairs.
From the bay in New Rochelle I drove to a park in
eastern Westchester called Mianus Gorge. It's an actual gorge cut out
by a river. It's a very lush and fragile environment. It was a nice
peaceful half hour I spent there. Then I went to Manhattan to have diner
on the upper West Side with Karen. We talk a walk through my old
stomping grounds. It was nostalgic.
Looks like the Von Cello Band will have some more
gigs soon. Man, they can jump on it, they can pour water and scorn on
it, but the Von Cello Band refuses to die!
Perry
7/1/02 11:29:08 AM 131.100.2.189
Mianus Gorge? Is that a
joke waiting to happen or WHAT?!
Too easy for me...
Von Cello
Seeing things with new eyes
7/1/02 11:35:40 AM 24.90.139.161
That's funny, as many times
as I've been to Mianus gorge, I never saw the joke. Perry, now I wonder
if there are any gorges on Uranus.
Perry
bad pun master
7/1/02 3:04:01 PM 131.100.2.188
Uranus is pretty nice but
its not `gorges'....
Von Cello
Gorge, Gorge, Gorge of the
Jungle
friendtoyouandme@watchoutforthattree.com
7/1/02 3:18:13 PM 24.90.139.161
That's funny...I heard
Uranus was pretty ugly!
Perry
7/1/02 4:15:48 PM 131.100.2.188
When I drive from Boston to
NYC I pass through Mianus. Sometimes because of the construction,
Mianus gets all backed up.Sometimes I get off the highway and ask the
first person I see if there is anything good to eat in Mianus. I once
asked someone there how they liked growing up in Mianus.
GOing to school there. Dating there. Having your
first kiss in Mianus. Then once out of school, most people cant wait to
get out of Mianus. I dont know why. Mianus seems like a nice enough
place. A little too hot and sticky in the summer but the winters and
spring are nice. And Autumn, you wouldnt believe all of the colors you
can see in Mianus. Browns, yellows, reds and greens. I must not be the
only person who is fond of Mianus. I was in Provincetown once and some
very friendly fellow I just met told me how much he wanted to be in
Mianus. Mianus. A nice place to raise your kids.
Debbie
Canarsie 276
7/2/02 12:04:40 AM 216.239.46.118
I am one of the other
Debbies (still a Debbie) that you knew back in 276 (not Debbie Nemeth
tho I remember her well) ... I have no idea how I happened into your
address book but I surely remember Annabeth, Susan Bloom, Andrea
Goldberg, Elisa Sandler, Marcia Kriter (she always had a crush on both
you and Lance,) Valerie Hunter, and I think Lori (did she have banana
curls?) You may remember me by association with my friend Renee (I was
very quiet and shy back then) - Renee is now living in CA - she is
happily Orthodox with about 5 kids! Anyhow, sounds like you made it in
music (congrats!) - though I remember Jeffrey Lowy as being the musical
one in 276 - his father owned the record store on Flatlands Ave as I
recall. As far as Mr. Mendelson - well, I never got past one year of
flute in fifth grade and never made it into 276s glee club (which
always bothered me)... whatever happened to you after sixth grade -
(Remember Mrs. Darvon - Marc L?) did you take the 3 year SP in
Bildersee or did you move? Also, I seem to remember that you had a
foster brother on an Indian reservation - or am I thinking of someone
else?
Von Cello
Excuse me while I kiss the
sky...
7/2/02 1:10:59 PM 24.90.139.161
Perry, all I can say is I
will never be able to go hiking in Mianus Gorge again! Thanks for
ruining it for the rest of my life! ;-)
Nah, to tell the truth, I,ll be cracking up while
walking through the woods and people will think I,m crazy. Actually,
making fun of Mianus serves them right. It,s a very rich, snooty
community there. The park has strict hours enforced by a ranger. I got
there at 4:30 and was immediately told that the park closes at 5:00.
Then there are all these signs about don,t do this and don,t do that.
Ha, they think they,re so proper in their hoity toity little corner of
Westchester...but it figures, it took a guy from Canarsie to point out
that they are living in MIANUS!! LOL!!!!!!!
Excuse me, while I scratch my ass...
Von Cello
Who are you? Who who, who
who?
voncello@voncello.com
http://www.debbiedebbiedebbie.com
7/2/02 1:24:33 PM 24.90.139.161
Debbie! I,m trying to
remember who you are. You must have been in school with me to remember
all those things! Wow, Debbie Nemeth, my first "girl friendo/oo
(in 4th grade). What ever happened to her? And all those other girls!
Annabeth was Annabeth Rosen. I had a crush on Susan Bloom, and a bit
for Andrea (5th and 6th grade). I can,t believe Marcia had a crush on
me. I thought she hated me! (I guess that,s how kids sometimes show a
crush, huh?) Lori was Lori Castori! She now lives in CT. with a husband
and three kids. I met her at the South Shore reunion. That was fun.
I remember Renee, but I forget her last name. What
was/is your last name? Please tell us here, or email me at the email
address above.
Yes, I was in a band with Jeff Lowy called
"The Sound Smasherso/oo. Last I heard, he owned a club date
business in Arizona. Yes, Jeff and I were in Mrs. Darvon,s class along
with Mark Lufshis. He was my best friend in 6th grade. You must have
been in our class, no?
I did indeed take the 3 year SP. In fact, Neal
Goldstein, who signs in often, was in my class, as was Geri Modell, who
used to post regularly. What class were you in? And your memory is correct
that my family supported an Indian boy in Arizona. He came to visit one
summer. It probably was during elementary school. His name was
Augustine Mowa, Jr. He is now a grand father! And he,s our age! I guess
things move fast on the reservation!
Thanks for signing in. Please tell us more of your
memories and help me try to remember exactly who you are!
Debbie K
Canarsie roots
www.whoeverthoughtyou'dbefamous.com
7/2/02 10:37:48 PM 205.188.209.70
Hmmm... should I be
insulted that you don't remember me? (just kidding)
I was in your sixth grade class. Actually, I also
had a crush on you for a short while. We used to talk sometimes on the
phone as friends... we had a "robot" joke. I remember that
all of the girls were crazy about Marc until he got so conceited that
no one could stand him. Ellen Gallon was in our class too.
We did a great sixth grade play and we sang about
"junk" as an art medium. I know that Renee (Levine) was in my
group and so was Marc. I think you were too, but I'm not sure. I think
we also did a caveman skit once. (It was a LONG time ago - 1969 - year
of Woodstock, man on the moon, Mets winning the World Series to put it
into perspective.) I took the 2 year SP - I was in 7SP3 then 9SP2. I
think that most of the guys in our class took the 3 year. (I probably
graduated South Shore the year before you.) Before that I was in 6-2,
5-9, 4-9, 3-1 as I moved to Canarsie in third grade.
I kept my maiden name after getting married and
will email it to you rather than posting it on your board. Debbie
Nemeth and I always had a joke going through graduating HS - she was
always Debbie N and I was always Debbie K.
Do you still live in Brooklyn? (I don't.)
Also, (this is way in the depths of my memory so I
could be wrong again) - did you go to Wel-Met Camps one summer? I went
there for several years.
BTW, Lonnie Julie and Lance Feinland were my first
boyfriends in third grade. Do you remember them?
I'm pretty sure that Susan Bloom went to Smith
after Stuyesant. Andrea and Annabeth went to Art and Design HS. They
were both great artists even as kids. I think Annabeth is an
accomplished professional sculptor now.
I teach fifth grade now. Time does fly.
Perry
7/3/02 12:30:46 AM 24.62.100.76
Lance Feinland? E. 78th st?
Between Glenwood and Faragut? never `hoid of him....
Von Cello
Classmate of a famous
artist
7/3/02 1:59:11 AM 24.90.139.161
Yes, she,s talking about
the Lance whom we all know and love. The one who started hanging out
with the hitters in high school.The one who punched me in the face in
the 11th grade!
I just did a web search on Lonnie Julie and found
a porno photographer. I wonder if it,s the same Lonnie. He was on the
Audio Visual squad...so maybe...anyway here,s a link that has him: http://www.rapindustry.com/lyndsielee.htm
Boy, Debbie, you must have been some wild 3rd
grader! ;-)
Now I remember who you are! The thing that threw
me off was the name Debbie. We used to call you Debra, and your nick
name was Jo. How,s that for memory?! In fact, I,m looking at you right
now. I still have our class picture! And the teacher,s name was Mrs.
Darvin, not Darvon. Yes, we were friends. I remember you as one of the
"niceo/oo girls.
Here are some of the others from our class: Steve
Wald, Charlie Boreman, Micheal Norinsky (Banana Tree), Jesse Deutsch
(Mad Dog), Kenny Hupart, Joy Weinberg, Cari Weiss, Maddy Bloom. I know
these because they signed the picture booklet, but there are a few
more. I think there,s a girl named Cheryl (Susan,s friend) and a few
very tall girls who,s names I don,t remember. I also think a girl named
Sheri Cohen and one named Arlene in the picture.
Looking at the picture I notice that not only were
there no kids of color, but almost every kid was Jewish! It,s amazing.
We went to a public school, but it was almost like a Jewish day school
in it,s composition.
By the way, remember Kenny Hupart? He used to come
over to my house and ask if we could beat up my sister! Guess what he
became? A doctor! I just did a web search on him and found the
following quote: "The refurbished clinical and waiting room spaces
are welcome news for patients and staff alike," said Kenneth
Hupart, M.D., medical director, Ambulatory Care Center. "And, with
the addition of new laboratory and radiology units on site, the
timeliness of diagnostic procedures will improve as well." Ha! Bet
you never thought you,d hear those words come out of his mouth!
I did a search on Jeff Lowy. Could that be him in
the picture?
http://www.cindyalexander.com/images/pages/klsx.shtml
Jesse Deutcsh was very bright. I bet this is him:
http://www.simtel.net/pub/oth/1823.html
Perhaps the most impressive is Annabeth Rosen. You
said she became a sculptor, so this must be her:
Annabeth Rosen (1957-) was born in Brooklyn, New
York. She is noted for her exuberantly modelled
reliefs and brightly coloured slipware. She
trained at New York State College of Ceramics, Alfred University
gaining a BFA (1974-1978). Subsequently she
studied at Cranbrook Academy of Art, Michigan for an MFA.
The manner in which she was taught at Alfred
University on the foundation programme had a profound
effect on her creative work and teaching. The
teaching was team-taught and conceptual, allowing the
students to be creatively independent. It was
while she was at Cranbrook Academy that she started
making big slabs that leaned against the wall and
were painted on both sides.
She does not consider that the work she makes fits
into either the category of pottery or sculpture but
likes to classify it as three-dimensional clay
objects. Although the plate forms that she makes are
obviously rooted in the traditional ideas of
function she does not align herself with this area of ceramics.
All aspects of clay and the process of making
engage her and the endless potential for metamorphosis of
clay continue to intrigue her. She works quickly
cutting, shaping and layering, often reincorporating the
remnants and firing her work up to six or seven
times. She has taught since 1987 and since 1997 has
held the Robert Arneson Endowed Chair at
California College of Arts and Crafts, Davis.
She has taken part in numerous workshops and has
lectured in America since 1988. She presently holds
an Endowed Chair at the University of California.
A recipient of prestigious arts awards she has twice
received a National Endowment for the Arts, Craft
Fellowship and a Pew Fellowship among others. She has
shown her work extensively in America. In 1993
Aberystwyth Arts Centre showed her work in the exhibition
The American Way.
About Annabeth Rosen
Alison Britton 'The Lost & The Free:
Continuity and Disruption in Ceramic Art' The American Way,
Aberystwyth, Aberystwyth Arts Centre, Aberystwyth,
1993
Scott Chamberlain and Betty Woodman 'Views on use:
function in American ceramics' Ceramic Review
142, July/August 1993, pp 24-26
Barbara Milman 'Introducing Annabeth Rosen' Davis
Art, Fall 1997, pp1-2
Penelope Shackleton 'A Voyage in Rosen's Ceramic
Visions' The Davis Enterprise: Weekend, November 20
1997
Peter Schjeldahl 'Ceramics and Americanness' The
American Way, Aberystwyth Arts Centre, Aberystwyth,
1993
Annabeth Rosen: CV
http://art.ucdavis.edu/ARcv.html
Endowed chairs
http://www-dateline.ucdavis.edu/022500/Dl_chairs.html
(accessed 16/08/00)
Exhibition at John Michael Kohler Arts Center http://www.jmkac.org/Releases/annabeth.html
(accessed
16/08/00)
Wow! And to think I used to fight with her in 6th
grade. (Guess I never did get along with those artsy chicks!) ;-)
Hey, Jo, let us know about anyone else you know
about from the good old days! It,s fascinating!
Von Cello
Twilight Zone strikes
again!
7/3/02 7:28:58 AM 24.90.139.161
By the way, we have a
running joke here that people just appear out of nowhere, strangely
drawn to this guestbook, like a Twilight Zone episode.
How did you end up here anyway?
TJ
Not a Deadhead, but a
news-reader
7/3/02 8:21:32 AM 192.223.243.6
Grateful Dead Reunion Back
On
Updated 16:48 PDT Fri, Jun 28 2002
The Walworth County Board in Wisconsin has
reversed its decision and will allow Grateful Dead fans to head to the
Alpine Valley Music Theatre for two days of jamming August 3-4.
The County Highway Committee, which oversees the
operating license at Alpine Valley, rejected the concert permit earlier
this month. The East Troy venue is about 30 miles southwest of
Milwaukee.
The committee was concerned with the traffic needs
for the Deadheads that would arrive in the city, fearing it would
overwhelm the sheriff's department and emergency response teams.
Authorities fear that more than 200,000 will show up; there are 35,000
tickets sold for each day of the two-day event.
"Terrapin Station" will be the first
announced reunion for the "The Other Ones" - the surviving
members of the Grateful Dead since leader Jerry Garcia died of a heart
attack in 1995. Others slated to play are Karl Denson's Tiny Universe,
DJ Logic, The Disco Biscuits, and Donna The Buffalo, among others.
The promoter, Clear Channel Entertainment,
reportedly had detailed plans for dealing with the situation. According
to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, Clear Channel promised to turn away
anyone without a ticket, have a medical helicopter stationed at the
East Troy Airport and cover all expenses incurred by the local
authorities. It also reportedly put up a $100,000 bond for damages to
neighboring properties.
Dennis McNally, longtime Grateful Dead
spokesperson, told POLLSTAR that The Other Ones will be sending out a
"profound message" in the upcoming weeks, strongly urging
those who do not have tickets to not come to the show.
The committee listened to two days of testimony
June 27-28. A lawyer for Clear Channel said the concert was unfairly
rejected based on a prediction it would violate local ordinances.
There are rumors of some fall shows for the
surviving members of the Dead, but McNally said the band is taking
things on a show-by-show basis. If anything, the traditional New Year's
gig would be the first step.
The Terrapin Station show moved to Wisconsin after
Chicago said it was not interested in having the event in the city's
Grant Park.
Debbie Jo
Wonderful Wonderful Louis
Marshall
7/3/02 10:32:57 AM 24.228.22.37
I am looking at the class
picture too.
The back row: Jeff Lowy, Kenneth Hupart (MD),
Renee Levine (nurse) Marcia Starr, Mindy Jackerson, Michael Norinsky
(played trombone), Lonnie Julie (photographer of ?)
Second row: Ellen Gallon, Joy Weinberg, Annabeth
Rosen (sculptor) Mrs. Darvin (love the hairdo - actually she was my
favorite teacher - did she leave to have a baby in the middle of the
year?), Elisa Sandler, me (last time I wore pigtails), Janet
Mandelblatt, Cheryl Gottlieb
Third Row: Lori (?), Andrea Goldberg, Debbie
Nemeth, Sherri (Cohen?), Cari Weiss, Arlene Alebarda (lives in Staten
Island, married young and kids are grown), Marcia Krider, Maddy
Rosenberg, Susan Bloom
Bottom Row: Stephen Wald, Marc, you (love the
tie), Lance Feinland (future hitter) and Charlie. I guess Jesse Deutch
was absent. I thought Valerie Hunter was in the class too. Maybe she
was absent too? It's incredible how many kids were in one class.
Wow. I never realized that there were so few boys
in the class. No wonder you guys always had girlfriends!
You can tell that you and Jeff were to go on to be
musicians by the way you dressed. Kenneth looked like a doctor even
then. I can't tell if I was wearing fishnet stockings like Susan Bloom
or kneesocks like Lori. Those were the indeed the days of fashion.
The girls had to wear dresses (or skirts) to
school unless it was cold and snowing. In that event we wore pants
under our dresses which we had to remove when we got to school.
I do remember Jesse being brilliant. He was the
star of the class play. I also think he was the speaker at the
graduation - sometime before or after we sang "No Man is an
Island."
276 was indeed a clone of a Jewish Day School. I
think EVERYONE in our class was Jewish. Unlike most of today's schools,
all of the kids were tracked. Everyone in our class was very bright -
and obviously many went on to great professional success.
Do you remember the portable classrooms?
You're right in that my real name is Debra, which
I hated back then. It's funny, because just a few weeks ago I was
telling my students that they should never be afraid to speak up and
tell the teacher what they want to be called. I told them I was always
too shy to say that I hated Debra and wanted to be called Debbie! (That
finally changed in 7th grade for me.)
I can't believe that you remember "Jo."
That is my middle name ... Renee and I were on a kick that we wanted
boys' nicknames. She had no middle name, so she picked "Jude"
from the Beatles song. I only remember the Jo thing going on for a very
short while.
I had also done a search on Annabeth. I knew she
went to Alfred, so it makes sense that the sites you found refer to
her. Her parents were Beatniks; they owned a store where you made your
own earrings on Flatbush Avenue.
You didn't tell me whether you went to Wel-Met.
Thanks for a good trip to the Twilight Zone ...
it's fun to share the memories.
Steve Marcus
I also had a crush on
you,Aaron
das some @aol.com
7/3/02 1:16:43 PM 62.42.162.243
When you talk abouyt a n
old school foto why dont you up it into the net so I we can see it?Put
it into your own web page with a hiperlink.Or anyone talking about a
person they recall on whom they have a foto can do likewise !Also how
the heck does one add something to your visitors corner.?
SAC
7/3/02 3:27:08 PM 152.163.189.198
One hell of a hot day here
today,and
yesterday , 98%97%. how is it where you
are? I have four fans going right now.
Von Cello
Hot
7/3/02 5:16:22 PM 24.90.139.161
Wow, a lot of action!
Steve, if you want to post something to the
Visitors' Corner email it to me. What kind of thing would you like to
post?
TJ, thanks for the update. I have a feeling the
deadheads are going to flock to Wisconsin no matter what. Didn't Max
Yasgar think, "A concert on my property for 50,000 people...I can
deal with that"?
SAC, it's hot enough to fry an egg on the street
here today.
**********SAC*************
7/3/02 6:03:43 PM 152.163.189.198
I once hear it asked befor
how hot do you think it
has to get befor a person could died?
Hot enough to fry an egg on the ground.
Aaron , I like my stuff that I write but through
my
friends I know that IT cuold always be improved.
Or we say not, just as easy.
Von Cello
Class 6 -2 at P.S. 276
louismarshal@276.com
http://www.blueandwhitewerewithyoualltheway.org
7/3/02 6:13:07 PM 24.90.139.161
Debbie,
Great memories. Most of the folks who sign in to
the guestbook I knew in JHS or HS, even if we first met in elementary
school. It,s fun to think back that far. Isn,t it interesting too that
I,ve had very few posts from anyone I met in college or later. I guess
it,s that Canarsie thing! You can take the boy (or girl) out of
Canarsie, but you can,t take Canarsie out of the boy (or girl).
Our class was ALMOST all Jewish. Lori Castori was
Italian. I think Arlene Alebarda might have been Spanish. Still, it was
amazingly homogeneous. When I was a kid, I thought the whole world was
Jewish, with a few Italians and blacks mixed in. Boy, was I in for a
shock when I met Evangelical Christians in college!
I remember having to wear blue pants, a white
shirt and a red cross tie for assembly once a week. I remember girls
always wearing dresses. I remember when the older girls started wearing
mini skirts. Wow! I remember the portables. It was almost like the
little old school houses from the 1800,s.
That story about your name reminds me of another
one. My ex-girlfriend,s father was named Harold, but when he was a
little kid in school one of his teachers mistakenly called him Aaron.
He was afraid to correct her, so he became Aaron in school. He
continues to call himself Aaron to this day!
And Wel-Met! Yes, I did go there. I think it was
around 1967. I went for two weeks. I barely remember anything about it.
I think one of the counselors was named Onowat. My counselor used to
tell us scary stories and run away from us leaving us stranded in the
woods. I guess that was supposed to be "boy stuffo/oo, but today
it would probably be called child abuse. I vaguely remember what the
place looked like. I think it was in Narrowsburg, CT? Were you there
then? What do you remember?
DJ
Who was Louis Marshall
anyway?
Astheyearsgoby@276.com
www.theneighborhoodwassoJewishtheschoolwasnamedforaJew
7/3/02 10:50:49 PM 64.12.96.15
Louis Marshall
Civil Rights Lawyer and Representative of American
German Jewry
Louis Marshall was born in Syracuse in 1856, the
son of German-Jewish immigrants. He became a partner in Guggenheimer,
Untermyer, and Marshall in 1894. He joined the German-Jewish elite and
quickly became the chief spokesman for this group in matters affecting
the Jewish community at home and abroad. At the same time, he displayed
a remarkable sensitivity to the needs and desires of the huge mass of
new Eastern European Jewish immigrants, encouraging, guiding,
criticizing, but not patronizing.
He served as president of Temple Emanu-El in New
York (where he came into conflict with Rabbi Stephen S. Wise) and was,
at the same time, chairman of the board of directors of The Jewish
Theological Seminary.
Believing in the indivisibility of civil rights,
Marshall was a consistent champion of other minorities. Active in the
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, he fought
major legal battles on behalf of Blacks. In 1912 Marshall became
president of the American Jewish Committee and held this post until
1929. During World War I, he participated in a bitter internal power
struggle within the Jewish community over the establishment of an
American Jewish Congress in preparation for peace negotiations. Playing
a key role as mediator, Marshall joined the Jewish delegation to the
Paris Peace Conference in 1919, where he supported the granting of
national minority rights to the Jews of the new East European states.
During World War I, he was president of the American Jewish Relief
Committee and helped organize and guide the American Jewish Joint
Distribution Committee. In 1920, alarmed at hysterical anti-Bolshevism,
Marshall defended five socialist assemblymen, who were refused their
seats in the New York State Legislature.
Marshall specialized in constitutional and
corporate law. Many of the numerous cases that he argued before the
U.S. Supreme Court were of major constitutional significance. Although
he never sought public office, he was at one time seriously considered
for appointment to the Supreme Court. A leading supporter of the
Republican Party, Marshall participated in local and national politics,
led in the establishment of the New York State College of Forestry, and
served on numerous non-sectarian committees and boards.
He vigorously attempted, without success, to block
the American publication of the anti-Semitic Protocols of the Elders of
Zion, imported from Europe in the immediate postwar years. American
Jewry was shocked when the Dearborn Independent, a publication owned by
Henry Ford, embarked in 1920 on a crusade to popularize and elaborate
the distortions and misrepresentations emanating from the Protocols. In
1927, after lawsuits brought by individuals maligned by the
Independent, Ford agreed to cease his attacks and to sign a formal
apology to the Jews prepared by Marshall.
Marshall participated in the legal defense of Leo
Frank, who was convicted and subsequently lynched in Georgia for a
murder he allegedly committed in 1913. He played a significant part in
the campaign to delay the imposition of progressively harsher
immigration-restriction legislation. His intervention in 1922 helped
reverse Harvard University's announced intention to impose a quota
system on Jewish students. He quietly opposed the powerful Ku Klux Klan
and vigorously condemned the perpetrators of the Massena ritual murder
libel in 1929.
Although he wasn,t a political Zionist, Marshall
acknowledged the need for Palestine as a center of Jewish settlement,
especially after the United States severely limited immigration in the
early 1920s. He cooperated with Chaim Weizmann in attempting to arrange
a modus vivendi which would allow wealthy and influential non-Zionists
to share in the support of Palestine without actually becoming
Zionists.
Von Cello
Louis Marshall we're with
you all the way...
7/4/02 2:51:02 AM 24.90.139.161
Hey, whoever posted that
bio of Louis Marshal, thanks. (Who posted that anyway?) In all the
years that I went to school there, and all the years since, I never
knew a thing about him. Now I'm proud to have gone to "his
school". Yes, it was a very Jewish public school: not only were
most of the students Jewish, and the namesake Jewish, but the school
colors were blue and white, like the Israeli flag. In fact, I remember
that my 5th grade teacher (Mr. Weissmuler?) taught us Israeli folk
dances and we performed them at some event.
Does anyone remember our school song?
Louis Marshall, we're with you all the way.
Louis Marshall, the proudest words that we can
say.
With our heads held high, we'll aim for the sky,
and our bonds grow stronger and stronger with every
passing day.
Blue, White, Blue, White
Onward and upward stiving, knowing the good
deriving.
Hail, hail, to our great school, we will be true!
Ha! I can't believe I remember that! :-)
And who could forget our other song, to the melody
of Wonderful, Wonderful, Copenhagan:
Wonderful, wonderful, Louis Marshal, school of the
white and the blue. We can learn a lot. We can lay a fot...(actually a
fart, but when you say fot it rhymes).
I'm sure the real words were different, but that's
all I remember.
Debbie
There's somethin'about 276
7/4/02 11:06:23 AM 205.188.209.70
That was me that posted the
bio which I was inspired to look up last night. (DJ - Debbie Jo)
Yes, I remember parts of the songs too (which is
pretty incredible - I guess we sang them every week at Assembly for so
many years.)
The first song was:
There's somethin' about 276
That makes us jump for joy
It's the land of opportunity for every girl and
boy ...
Blue and white
We're with you all the way ...
Louis Marshall - proudest words that we can say
With our heads held high
We'll aim for the sky
As our bonds grow stronger and stronger with every
passing day
BLUE! WHITE!
BLUE! WHITE!
Onward and upward stiving, knowing the good
deriving.
Hail, hail, to our great school, we will be true!
(Of course I never knew what deriving meant at the
time, but that's beside the point.)
The other song was:
Wonderful, wonderful Louis Marshall
School of the white and the blue
As the years go by
And we grow so high
Let us keep our memories true
To our wonderful teachers and principal
The best that we ever will know
We'll remember you
For the good you do
As we students come and go
We'll always remember the fun we had
In the best school under the sun
???? I don't remember the ending :(
I don't remember your alternate version. Maybe
only the boys sang it that way. However, i DO remember the boys calling
farts fots. I actually thought they were called that (thanks a lot!)
until Junior High School when I learned otherwise!
I also had Mr. Weisfuse in fifth grade and Mrs.
Levin in fourth grade. We actually learned Hebrew as a second language
in both classes. I hated Mrs. Levin, but I really liked Mr. Weisfuse.
He had a heart attack in the middle of the year and never returned to
school.
I had a friend named Robin Polle in third grade.
She was Protestant. Her parents were outraged when they heard that she
had to learn Hebrew as a second language and insisted that one of the
classes get Spanish, which she did. She moved to NJ in the beginning of
sixth grade. Now that I think about it, that was the year of the very
long extended school strike. I don't think school started until October
or November of 1968. I remember because I went to visit her in NJ during
the strike and I didn't miss any school. We actually had a class
meeting in a church somewhere before school began. I don't know if
everyone was there.
Debbie
Wel-Met Camps
7/4/02 11:13:59 AM 205.188.209.70
Wel-Met was in Narrowsburg, NY - in the Catskills.
(There was another division in Barryville, NY, and a third division in
Narrowsburg called Silver Lake.) It is no longer there. I was there in
1966, 1969, 1970, and 1971. I suspect that you were there in 1966 when
I was, which is why I remember you being there. The session was six
weeks - maybe you left early? I don't remember much about that summer
other than being very homesick. (My subsequent years there were
fantastic.) I do remember playing a game similar to dodge ball where
you put benches down sideways in a circle and played in the middle. It
was called Ga-Ga.
My family all spent many years at Wel-Met. As a
matter of fact, my oldest sister met her first husband there, and my
middle sister met her husband there too. It was a camp with a very
sixties philosophy, filled with hippies.
RedFire
AntiZionist
az@whodaboss.com
7/5/02 3:54:22 PM 129.133.91.119
Zionism = Nazism
You guys are wimpy liars to be talking about 95
percent. Go to www.gush-shalom.org and see for yourself what that
"95%" bullshit was about--Israel is RACIST and CRIMINAL and
only one solution--FREEDOM FOR PALESTINE--and a NON ZIONIST ISrael
ruled by real Democracy not the fake shit racist Zionism in which only
Jews (white Jews only!) have rights and everybody else have to suck on
the biblical lemon---
DOWN WITH ZIONISM AND ITS STUPID SUPPORTERS!!!
FREE PALESTINE!!! FUCK SHARON---MAY HE DIE ON
PAIN, the RACIST CRUEL PIG FROM THE GUTTER OF SHIT, THE FAT DOG WHOSE
BREATH SMELLS LIKE THE SHIT OF SATAN.
Viva Palestine!!!
Viva Palestine!!!
Viva Palestine!!!
Viva Palestine!!!
Viva Palestine!!!
Viva Palestine!!!
Von Cello
Lover of bad jokes
7/5/02 4:45:07 PM 24.90.139.161
Thanks RedFire, for showing
us the mentality of those who think like you.
And now, the joke of the day:
A creature rose up out of the surf and came
ashore. Its garments were made of green sea lettuce. "I am the
friendly Witch of the Sand," she said, " I am only going to
sunbathe."
The sun was terribly hot. Her skin began to bake
and it turned as red as a ripe tomato! Have you ever seen ... a baking
lettuce and tomato Sand Witch?
Von Cello
Itching for a fight
7/5/02 5:35:44 PM 24.90.139.161
Hey Perry,
In honor of your wonderful posts about Mianus, I
would like to post this tidbit of knowledge:
What are anal warts?
Anal warts (also called "condyloma
acuminata") are a relatively common and bothersome condition that
affects the area around the anus. They may also affect the skin of the
genital area. They first appear as tiny blemishes, perhaps as small as
the head of a pin, and may grow larger than the size of a pea. Usually,
they do not cause pain or discomfort to afflicted individuals. As a
result, patients may be unaware that the warts are present.
Where do these warts come from?
They are thought to be caused by the human
papilloma virus which is relatively contagious. The virus can be
transmitted from person to person, almost always by direct contact.
Do these warts always need to be removed?
Yes. If they are not removed, the warts generally
grow larger and become more and more numerous. In addition, there is
evidence that these warts can become cancerous if left untreated for a
long time.
Von Cello
All roads lead to this
guestbook...
centeroftheuniverse@voncello.com
http://www.crossroadsoftheworld.net
7/5/02 6:12:24 PM 24.90.139.161
Debbie,
Look at this, someone did a search on AnnaBeth
Rosen and got referred to this guestbook!
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22annabeth+rosen%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&start=50&sa=N
Great Wel-Met memories. I remember that dodge ball
game! What does Wel-Met mean anyway?
And yes, the teacher was Weissfuse! What a name! I
guess we were in the same 5th grade class too. That one was also in a
portable. Let's see, in 4th grade I had Mrs. Jacoby and others. In 3rd,
Mrs. Safer? In 2nd, Mrs. Weinberger. In 1st I was at another school.
The principal was Mr. Stern. Was that PS 114?
Hope everyone's having a good holiday weekend!
Keep on barbecuing, drinking beer, watching sports, and listening to
rock music! Hey, it's the American way!
Von Cello
5 Borough Kinda Guy
strongopinions@canarsie.com
http://www.weknowahitterwhenweseeone.com
7/7/02 1:26:02 AM 24.90.139.161
Tonight I had a gig at a
new Hilton in Staten Island. It was a nice place surrounded by woods.
Most people don't know Staten Island. I've gotten to know it over the
years. Being a musician can really get you around to a lot of places
you wouldn't ordinarily go.
The people were so friendly! They clapped for our
quartet a number of times. Even a waiter came over and told us that we
were the best group he's heard there.
Staten Island: the new Canarsie?
Speaking of which...
I'm on a musicians email list and recently we have
been arguing about the situation in Israel. I have made the point that
one shouldn't justify terror against Israel, just as one shouldn't
justify it against the US or any country. There has been one guy who
consistantly posts in agreement with me. He recently emailed me to say,
"Isn't it funny that you and I are the only ones on our
side?" I asked him where he was from...you guessed it, Canarsie!
Mike Jacobs
Born in Canarsie
eviljake@eviljake.com
http://www.eviljake.com/
7/7/02 2:05:45 PM 66.65.96.178
Mike from Evil Jake here...
checking in. Met Von on MusicThoughts list.
Bought my first guitar at Royal Music, my dad's on
the board at HES, and my mom taught at PS272.
Now, I do this..
http://www.eviljake.com/
Mike
Von Cello
Bought my first guitar at
Royal Music too!
7/7/02 2:51:45 PM 24.90.139.161
Hey Jake, thanks for
stopping by. You're the one I was talking about in the previous post.
Who was your mother? I wonder if anyone on this list studied with her.
My first cello teacher, George Saslow, taught at
the HES. Did you know him? I used to swim there and use the gym.
Editor's note: Jake has a cool site. Check it out.
SAC
Lucky guys,
7/7/02 3:23:05 PM 64.12.96.15
Do you think I should go to
Royal's Music Too?
I've been waitting for a guitar for over 3 months
now and looking and I can't find a thing, or
my order has not come in .
Well I play left handed and I want a left hand
guitar instaed of turning a right one over.
This might be my lsat guitar.
I'll keep on looking.
Mike Jacobs
International Rock Star
eviljake@eviljake.com
http://www.eviljake.com/
7/7/02 4:31:56 PM 66.65.96.178
My mom was... Mrs. (Ruth)
Jacobs.
Saslow ran the music program when I studied piano
and guitar, with Mr. Mazur. I tried violin with some other teacher (an
older woman), but I never took to it.
Oh yeah, if anyone's in town on the 20th, we have
a big gig at Arlene Grocery right off Houston...
http://www.eviljake.com/
steve
Benson Burgers@e-em.com
7/8/02 6:05:18 AM 213.96.193.18
Wasnt the song sung to the
tune of Hans Christian Anderson?Not so Jewish!
Von Cello
Dutch...not!
7/8/02 10:30:04 AM 24.90.139.161
Steve is referring to the
Louis Marshall song that was sung to the melody of Wonderful, Wonderful
Copenhagan, from a show about Hans Christian Anderson.
Jake, I don't remember Mrs. Jacobs. Maybe someone
else will. George Saslow was a great guy. He was very happy to have me
as a student. He used to come to our house for lessons. My lesson was
supposed to be for an hour but he almost always did at least an hour
and a half; sometimes two! In the second half or 12th grade we went to
two lessons a week, and both were long ones. I worked my ass off trying
to make up for missing a whole childhood of cello lessons in one year!
It worked, I got into Boston Conservatory of Music the following year.
For several years after that, during breaks, I would meet Saslow at the
HES to get free lessons during which I would show him what I was
learning in college and he would give me his opinion.
Neal
Cah-nah-see
7/8/02 1:47:49 PM 12.146.203.104
I bought my first amp at
Royal Music. A twin reverb.
Debbie
Wel-Met Camps
7/8/02 3:29:36 PM 64.12.96.15
Wel-Met stood for Metropolitan Welfare. I think
that the camp evolved out of an agency that helped children in need.
Later on it went on to service those children as well as others that
did not require financial assistance.
Debbie
Carvel employee
7/8/02 3:42:47 PM 64.12.96.15
I bought my first (and only) guitar at Royal Music
too.
Does anybody remember the Carvel on E. 78 St. and
Flatlands Avenue? That was my first job while I was in H.S.
Actually, I was held up at gunpoint while working
there. A good-looking young guy had come in and ordered a vanilla cone.
I gave him the cone and he gave me a dollar. I opened the drawer of the
register to get change (cones were cheap back then) and he pulled out a
gun. Being rather naive, I had never seen a real gun before, and as it
seemed quite small to me, I thought he was kidding around. I insisted
on giving him his change, laughing all the while. He cocked the trigger
of the gun, cursed and demanded the money. The owner of the store
yelled to me to give him the money. I snapped into my senses and gave
him the $26 in the drawer. Luckily for me, he ran off - vanilla cone
and all!
SAC
7/8/02 4:31:45 PM 205.188.209.70
Hi, Von Cello
I've got a new place to look now it's big,
maybe you have heared of it.
It's called Musicians Friend.com
Thanks,
Thumb bulleana
Von Cello
Carvel
7/9/02 12:47:50 AM 24.90.139.161
Debbie, that's a hair
raising story about Carvel! And I thought Fudgy the Whale was the
scariest thing about that place! Yes, Carvel was a major
"place" in Canarsie.
SAC, that's a good place to buy music supplies
cheap. Probably cheaper than Royal Music. But Royal has such history!
And Jake, guess what? I met an old friend today
walking on a street in Forest Hills, who said his brother had your
mother as a teacher at 276! His name is Todd Cushner. He played drums
in my junior high school band Hang Nail! He wrote an essay in the
"Visitors' Corner" about those days. He just got remarried
and he also recently became a lawyer!
As for me, I had a gig in Long Island on Sunday at
the Harrison Conference Center in Glen Cove, on of the nicest parts of
the island. Believe it or not, Von Cello actually has a gig coming up.
It's Tuesday, 7/16 at 9:00 at the Izzy Bar opening up for jazz/rock
violinist Joe Deninzon! In fact, he got us the gig. We may do it with
just cello and drums! It's a little weird, but should be an interesting
challenge!
Tom Carvel
fan
7/9/02 11:26:38 AM 12.146.203.186
Von Cello rules!
steve
dassom@mixmail.com
7/9/02 1:02:01 PM 213.96.193.18
One of the best things
about the old neighborhood was the food.The knish ,the pizza ,the ices
and the ice cream I loved pizza so much I think I ate a slice a day
thru high school.As for ice cream I recall a place on flatlands with
great soft ice cream that I absolutely loved .One day I recall I
entered and ordered a cone of vanilla but while some girl was making it
, I discovered that I had forgotten my money and I thought Id have to
go back home to get it but I wanted that cone so much ,I pulled a Joe
Bazooka fake gun from my pocket and told the girl to give me the
cone.She thought I also wanted the money which I didnt,I just wanted my
cone but she opened the register anyway and so she handed me ,I think
it was 26 bucks.What a day!!
Debbie
20/20 Hindsight
7/9/02 3:54:07 PM 24.228.22.37
Steve,
No wonder I couldn't ID you when the cops dragged
me down to the local precinct to look at mug shots!
Bazooka Joe - Renaissance
Man
a penny for your thoughts
comics@bubblegum.com
http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~jimmyk/bazooka_html/
7/9/02 4:00:32 PM 24.228.22.37
Who needed food when there
was bazooka bubble gum?
Check out the link:
www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~jimmyk/bazooka_html/
Von Cello
Chewy, chewy, chewy, chewy,
chewy, chewy, chewy baby
7/9/02 8:19:31 PM 24.90.139.161
Debbie, why couldn't you ID
Steve? I don't follow.
Perry
7/10/02 12:21:52 AM 24.62.100.76
Anyone remember Pancake
Inn? Just next to Temple share Emeth, on faragut rd? (home of my
Bar-Mitvah...the temple, not the pancake place, though I did worship
those silver dollars with boysenberry syrup..
TJ
Pancake eater
7/10/02 12:30:13 PM 192.223.243.6
Perry, I remember going to
the IHOP on Ralph Ave.
Six different flavors of syrup! Does it get better
than that? :-)
Von Cello
Sweet dreams are made of
these...
7/10/02 12:57:22 PM 24.90.139.161
Better than
that...hmmm...let's see...
How about becoming 16 again and finding yourself
on a deserted island. Suddenly you look up and there is Linda Schwartz
bringing you a cool drink, wearing nothing but a loin cloth bikini...
Nah, you're right, the pancakes with the 6 syrups
are better! ;-)
Debbie
the weather started getting
rough
7/10/02 3:34:16 PM 24.228.22.37
Brad Pitt in a loin cloth,
maybe ... but Linda Schwartz???
Perry
7/10/02 5:39:32 PM 131.100.2.188
Well, live and `loin'.
Von Cello
Elephants memory
7/11/02 2:02:20 AM 24.90.139.161
Brad Pitt? Was he from the
Paedergats? I don't remember him.
Brad Pitt
7/11/02 11:01:04 AM 12.146.203.100
Jennifer, is that you?
TJ
Sunday morning pancake chef
7/11/02 11:21:19 AM 192.223.243.6
How about if Linda Schwartz
serves you pancakes with 6 syrups on a tropical island?
Or, to combine recent topics, maybe Linda Schwartz
could serve Carvel ice cream on a tropical island! Linda had better be
careful that Steve doesn't try to steal the loin cloth at gun point.
;-)
Debbie
tenant on E. 82 St.
http://twilight zone
revisited again
7/11/02 11:29:48 AM 24.228.22.37
Whoever said that teachers
have too much time on their hands in the summer?
I was browsing through the archives in this
guestbook and found a posting about Stu Troyetsky.
The Troyestskys owned the two family house that I
lived in. I lived upstairs from them for years. How are Elaine, Stu,
Mitchell, and Lenny anyway?
Von Cello
Friend of Stuey
7/11/02 3:22:18 PM 24.90.139.161
You can find pictures of
Stuey and Lenny on my "Friends and Family" picture page. I'm
still friends with Stu. He is married with 2 kids and living in a beautiful
house in Long Island. He's still a Dead Head and has been in and out of
real estate and investing. He's recovering from a knee operation.
Unfortunately, he doesn't like to use computers much so he never posts.
Did you live on 82nd St.? If so, from when to
when?
Von Cello
Sweet dreams are made of
these...
7/11/02 3:26:33 PM 24.90.139.161
TJ, good one!
How about Linda Schwartz covered in pancake syrup
and Carvel ice cream?
(Poor Linda...if she only knew...)
Tom Carvel
7/11/02 6:18:51 PM 12.146.203.100
Try our new
flavor...pancake syrup soft ice cream...your friends will love it.
Cleopatra Von Weasel
Publicity Hound
http://www.voncello.com/pictures_hound.html
7/11/02 6:46:45 PM 24.90.139.161
My parents got me chicken
flavored toothpaste. I love it. Hey Tom, how about beef flavored ice
cream?
Debbie
721 E. 82 St. 11236
7/12/02 12:34:51 AM 24.228.22.37
Yes, as I said earlier, the
Troyetskys owned the house. We all moved into it when it was brand new
- I think in 1965. I lived there from third grade until the middle of
9th grade. We then made a big four block move to E. 78 St. between
Flatlands and Glenwood - behind Wetsons and opposite the now infamous
Carvel. Later, they built the diner nearby. Actually, it was very
convenient as the schoolyard to South Shore was right across the
street.
We rented again - this time from the Boxers. They
had a son named Eric who was in the SP at Bildersee with me.
Unfortunately, he died a few years later, after HS. I don't recall
exactly what happened, but I think I heard that he drowned in some sort
of boating accident on a river.
E. 82 Street was filled with kids. There were
probably about 4 or 5 Debbies on that street alone! I was friends (on
and off) with Abby Ellison and Lori Kressel. There was an older girl
named Robin Stern and a girl named Ruthie (don't remember her last
name.) I was also friends with Rozy Rosenberg who went to Yeshiva in
Crown Heights but later went to South Shore.
When I moved to E. 78 Street, I found there were
many girls in my grade on the block: Gina Skolkin, Susan Jurish,
Janette Seiler, Robin Kovat, Ivy Simon ... to name a few. We hung out
on the stoops a lot on summer nights. We used to go home for lunch
through the hole in the schoolyard gate right on E. 78 Street.
My parents had about had it with Canarsie (and
Brooklyn in general) by the time I was in HS, but I convinced them to
stay until I graduated. The week after graduation they moved to
Bayside, Queens. I went away to work in a sleep-away camp for the
summer. When I came back, I felt like I was in no-man's land!
After I graduated from college, I moved to Park
Slope as I just couldn't fathom living in Queens. (The addresses never
made any sense to me. There were all those roads and avenues and
streets with the same number ... you could live on 57th avenue, 57th
road, 57th street ... I once came home from college late at night and
actually went to the wrong house!)
Anyway, many years later, when my husband and I
sold our first home in Merrick, Long Island - Ivy Simon and her husband
came to look at it as prospective buyers. Small world!
Von Cello
It's a small world after
all
7/12/02 2:42:33 AM 24.90.139.161
I was in a band with Abbey
Ellison's brother Robert. It started in 10th grade so you were gone. We
used to rehearse on the block. David Cohen was another on the block who
I used to play with. In 10th grade I became friends with Stu and our
group of friends grew and grew. Had you lived there then, I'm sure we
would have been friends.
I think it was in 11th grade when Stu bought a VW
van and a bunch of the crew went away on a wild trip to Vermont. I
think Perry was on that one. By then, I was away at music camp. I
wanted to be with my friends, but I realized that it was already late
in the musical game and I had a lot of catching up to do.
Anyway, now I live in the land of many roads,
drives, avenues and streets. Sometimes I feel like it's a bit of a no
man's land. On the other hand, it's like a kinder, gentler Brooklyn. I
don't think I'll be here for too much longer. Ever notice how places
look better when you know there is an end in sight?
Wetsons was a trip. Remember when Max held court
there? I once asked him how he could spend all his time in Wetsons
instead of going to school. He said he was going to go into his dad's
business, so school didn't matter. Guess what? He did, so it didn't
matter after all! :-)
TJ
Kovat / Boxer
7/12/02 7:53:26 AM 192.223.243.6
Debbie, The names Kovat and
Boxer are familiar. I knew a guy named Michael Boxer and a girl named
Alison Kovat. Maybe younger brother/sister of the people you mentioned.
Perry
7/12/02 3:04:19 PM 131.100.2.188
Yes- I believe the Boxers
were related.
I lived on Debbie`s block before I moved to Bergen
Beach before 9th grade.
My address was 715. E 78th.
Valerie Hunter lived next door to my best friends,
THE EPSTEINS (Mitch and Steve and Eliot an dlittle Daryl).
I played two -hand touch with Mark Jurish.
Debbie, I believe you lived next to the
Moscowitz`s?
Judy and ,,,er,,,I dont rememeber...Ellen maybe?
I climbed mountains and waded rivers and ran
martathons and....oh wait,,,sorry...got carried away.
I dont think I remember Debbie....or do I....lets
see...(wavy lines,,,,,fuzzy sight....weird dream music,,,taking me
back........hmmmmmmm...NOPE, dont recall.)
Debbie
walking and biking through
Canarsie
7/12/02 5:33:14 PM 152.163.189.198
Yes, Michael Boxer was
Eric's younger brother. He was a really sweet kid. Their family had a
real tragedy. Alison Kovat was Robin's younger sister. I remember her
being a tomboy - playing Little League back in those days which was
unusual! (Robin also lived in Merrick many years later when I did, but
our lives were on different paths by then. I think she's back in
Brooklyn now.) Mark Jurish was Susan's younger brother. They lived two
doors down from me. I lived at 757 E. 78. Susan became a psychologist
as did her husband.
I don't remember the Moskowitz family - I did know
a Marlene Moskowitz on a different block She was friends with Susan.
After I moved from Park Slope, I lived on Ocean
Avenue off Kings Highway for awhile. I ran into Bobby Ellison on the
subway one day and he recognized me. At the time I lived on E. 82
Street, Bobby and Stu were not friends as I think Bobby was older. Stu had
a cousin (Ivan?) who used to come around a lot.
As for the Epsteins, I am pretty sure that my
friend Gina Skolkin's family bought their house. (TJ - maybe you knew
her younger brothers, Scott or Sean.) Did they move around the time
that Perry did?
Sorry, Perry, I don't remember you at all either.
Did Joey Okon live at the end of the E. 78 St. too?
Looking back, it is amazing how many kids there
were everywhere. People can't believe it when I tell them that our H.S.
was on split session and they hear how large the graduating classes
were! We live in a suburb north of NYC now. It is so different as kids
have to be driven everywhere and everything is scheduled. I tell my
kids about Brooklyn and they feel that they missed out. Not to say that
they have a bad life here - but there's no hanging out on the stooops,
paddleball, biking everywhere, "calling for your friends"
etc. etc.
Hmmm .... I'm starting to feel like my Dad who
used to drive us through Brownsville where he grew up, telling us
stories about the good ole days!
Debbie
dentists r us
7/12/02 5:35:44 PM 152.163.189.198
Does anyone remember the
two dentists that everyone went to ... Wohl and someone else? We used
to call them the giant and the midget?
TJ
Occasional member of No
Cavity Club
7/12/02 9:11:30 PM 66.30.105.23
Debbie, Sorry, but I don't
remember Scott or Sean.
My memory of Alison Kovat is similar to yours. She
was a good athlete and a nice girl.
Dr. Wohl was my dentist. He was a big guy. Must
have been 6'3" and around 225 lbs. But, he had a gentle manner. I
also went to Dr. Kawa, the orthodontist. I think he was on E. 82 and
Ave J. That guy was so low-key that he was barely awake. A couple of
years after my retainer came off, my teeth shifted back to the way they
were. Do you think it's too late to ask for a refund? ;-)
Debbie
another job of mine ...
woofwoof@toilets.com
7/12/02 9:53:18 PM 24.228.22.37
Dr. Wohl once asked me to
"dogsit." His wife did not like to leave the dog home alone.
He wanted me to walk the dog every 25 minutes. When the dog barked, I
was supposed to flush the toilet so that he could drink. I dogsat ONCE.
And I thought the job at Carvel was strange ...
Mrs. Carvel
Soft
7/12/02 10:58:56 PM 24.90.139.161
Would you like to see my
husband's big cock?
Go here: http://egomania.nu/bigcock.html
Perry
7/13/02 12:02:21 PM 24.62.100.76
DR. WOHL and DR. Kalico
(sp?)....I can't believe I remembered that.
Wohl was tall and big. Kalico looked like George
Costanza (or more like Alan Sherman...but thats an obscure
reference...though maybe not on this board.).
the Epsteins did move same time as me as we moved
into a two family house together in Bergen Beach.
That was amazing. My best friends, moving into
same house. What parties we had.......
Debbie
small world again
7/13/02 2:10:14 PM 64.12.96.15
Funny that my best friend
Gina moved into your best friends' house!
Mortgage notes
http://www.ownerwillcarry.com
7/13/02 9:36:35 PM 209.233.244.5
Just stopped in for a
visit, nice site
Von Cello
Just askin'...
7/14/02 3:20:42 AM 24.90.139.161
Thanks Mr. Mortgage Notes!
Don't mean to be rude, but did your mother name
you that?
No opinion here, just askin'...
:-)
Alan Sherman
Unhappy Camper
7/14/02 9:20:58 AM 66.30.105.23
Hello Mudda, Hello Fadda
Von Cello
ex camper
7/14/02 10:24:56 PM 24.90.139.161
I used to spend summers in
the country away at camp. In college I went away every summer to music
festivals. I thought, one day, I would go back to those summer
festivals as a teacher/artist. As it's turned out, I spend my summers
playing gigs.
This weekend I played a wedding at the Essex House
on Central Park South and then another this morning at the George
Washington Hotel in Roslyn, NY. On Tuedsay Von Cello will be playing
back at the Izzy Bar on 10th St. and 1st Ave.
Maybe I'll spend my summers at festivals in the
Rockies, or up in Vermont when I grow up. But for now, it's a work a
day musician's life!
Von Cello
Downtown
7/14/02 10:38:10 PM 24.90.139.161
I heard a cut on the radio
today. It was that old song "Downtown" but it was sung by a
guy who sounded like a frustrated Jewish father, and the words were
different than the Petula Clark version. They were about a father
yelling at his son for always going downtown instead of doing anything
constructive. I was cracking up.
Does anyone know that version? Is it Alan
Sherman's?
Perry
7/15/02 2:39:20 AM 24.62.100.76
Yes - Alan Sherman did a
parody of Downtown.
(does that song really need a parody?).
Neal
7/15/02 11:22:15 AM 12.146.203.100
I think Alan Sherman's
version was called "Crazy Downtown"
Neal
here it is
7/15/02 11:31:10 AM 12.146.203.100
Crazy Downtown
Mommy and Dad are never nervous or mad
when you teenagers go downtown.
Daddy and Mom just stay at home and keep calm
and watch the late late show up town.
Cause when kids you kids are gone we get to spend
some time along here.
That's our only chance to use the bathtub or the
phone here,
when you're away.
Besides we're stuck where we are
Because you kids took our money, you kids took our
car
And went downtown. Where can you possibly?
Downtown. It's twenty after three.
Downtown. What do you mean by lets froog?
You don't come home till four a.m. cause you're
roaming
In the streets somewhere downtown.
We would feel swell if only someone would tell
Us what goes on down there, downtown.
But every time we ask you what you're doing after
dark there,
You just say that you were frooging to Petula
Clark there.
That's what I mean.
So kids, give your folks a break
Because you're driving us crazy. We sit here all
day
And take Miltown. Swallowing pills so we'll
Calm down. Counting the hours you're
Downtown. You and your froog and your slop.
While we're lying there, we try to watch the
television.
Then you call us up and say you've had a slight
collision.
There goes the car.
Besides that you've been arrested
So we've got to get up and we've got to get
dressed
And go Downtown. Borrow a car
and go Downtown. That's where you are, you finks.
Downtown. Wait 'til I get you kids home.
They'll be no more frooging! No swimming! No jerk!
No mash potato! No slop!
And I'll tell you something else. You're gonna
stay home tomorrow night
And you're mother and I are going downtown
And we're gonna dance the tango and the waltz and
the fox trot
And we're gonna do the bunny hop. That's a nice
dance.
And they'll be no more frooging. Is that quite
clear? No more frooging!
Von Cello
Dancing in the streets
7/15/02 1:08:14 PM 24.90.139.161
Neal,
This is the amazing thing about this page.
Anything you want...you got it!
Thanks for posting that Neal. I did a web search
and couldn't find it. It's soooo funny!
I did see some of his album titles during my
search. I liked this one:
"My Son, the Nut"!
Von Cello
Bored
7/17/02 12:40:01 AM 24.90.139.161
Ever pull someone's finger
and hear a weird
noise come out of his or her butt?
Ever sit in a tub of water and see bubbles
come out of your hiney?
This strange noise and vibrating sensation
that came from your butt is most likely caused
by a fart.
A fart is a combination of gases (nitrogen,
carbon dioxide, oxygen, methane, and
hydrogen sulfide) that travels from a person's
stomach to their anus. When a person
swallows too much air or eats foods that the
human digestive system cannot digest easily
gas becomes trapped in his/her stomach. The
only way for this excess gas to exit the body
is through the anus.
The gas that makes your farts stink is the
hydrogen sulfide gas. This gas contains sulfur which causes farts to
have a smelly odor. The more sulfur rich your diet, the more your farts
will stink. Some foods that cause really smelly farts include: beans,
cabbage, cheese, soda, and eggs.
steve recalls
dassom@mixmail.com
7/17/02 7:38:55 AM 195.57.165.170
A story about me and stuey
kessler,who lived up from the 2 dentists on 80 and glenwood.I was good
pals with stuey and went to his house often to play and his gramma used
to make us boiled beef in a pot .One day ,my gramma walked me over to
his house as it was snowing alot but she wanted me out so she walked me
there.When kesslers bubby opened the door,the 2 bubbies began kissing
and talking in yiddish which was how my gramma spoke always with me too.It
turned out they grew up together in Odessa,went to school together but
lost touch after school.Each got caught in that big net which brought
jews to ny mainly coney island but the 2 didnt meet again there.Later
their kids grew and bought into Canarsie taking the widowed bubies
along and the 2 met for the first time in the usa when at stueies
door.What a world!
Von Cello
Canarsie snowball fighter
7/17/02 10:01:28 AM 24.90.139.161
Steve, I hate to admit it,
but your post was much more interesting than mine! That's an amazing
story.
(Though, you have to admit, mine was funnier.)
MARIA NINA tra la la
dassom@mixmail.com
7/19/02 5:34:07 AM 213.96.193.18
I recall the best looking
girl in bildersee was a cathy zori who sang fantastically in the
chorus.I too did time with mr presti and mr cama but remember her voice
and she was the most erotic girl i knew in those days.Anybody recall
her?
Neal
back to music
7/19/02 11:34:47 AM 12.146.203.100
Changing the subject, I saw
They Might Be Giants again at the Fillmore in San Francisco the other
night. It was lots of fun. They're a great band, with a cult following.
They talk to the crowd a lot. They're always funny. They're not
necessarily a "jam band", but they are great musicians and
excellent songwriters. The Fillmore is a great old place. Upstairs is
the Poster Room with posters of lots of the old shows, everyone from
Miles Davis, Grateful Dead, even Sam the Sam was there. I didn't see
any Alan Sherman, however.
Neal
oops
7/19/02 2:02:47 PM 12.146.203.100
meant of course Sam the
Sham. wooly bully
Dr Seuss
7/19/02 2:23:00 PM 192.223.243.6
I would not, could not, at
the Filmore;
I would not, could not, at the bookstore;
I would not, could not, in a hotel;
I would not, could not, with John Linnell;
I do not like green eggs and ham,
I do not like them, Sam the Sham
Perry
7/19/02 6:22:39 PM 131.100.2.188
Iwould love to see a show
at the fillmore!!!!!
I would love to PLAY a show at the fillmore!!!!
I used to want to play a show at Winterland, until
I realized that , shamefully, many of the `stand-up' spotlights I see
on Comedy channel are taped at Winterland, ,,,and it doesnt seem so
special anymore.
The Band, The Dead, Van Morrisson, Eric C, and
LOUIE ANDERSON?>!!!!!
Neal
greetings from san
francisco
7/19/02 6:53:24 PM 12.146.203.100
Winterland is now a condo
Neal
sea lion update
7/22/02 12:38:47 PM 12.146.203.215
A lot of them have migrated
down south to the Channel Islands, although there are still a few left
at Fisherman's Wharf. exciting, yes? (bark, bark)
6-3 the IGC
steve@gotya.com
7/23/02 5:32:55 AM 213.96.193.18
Anybody looking for a miss
binder from ps 276 can get her at oldwestbury@danielgale.com Shes a
realty agent since long ago out in long island.
Von Cello
Maine-iac
7/23/02 1:18:25 PM 142.167.16.51
Greetings from the internet
cafe of Bar Harbor Maine!
I'm just a sittin' here, sipping a coffee and
enjoying your posts. Karen and I went to Montreal and headed further
east but then turned south through the White Mountains of New Hampshire
and into Maine; first Kennebunkport and then Bar Harbor and Accadia
Park. We'll be home any day now. I'm looking for inspiration for a
song. So far, not much...but how about a song called, "Here Comes
America"?
I'm also thinking about starting an email list
letter. Anyone who joins can email the group. Messages can be received
one at a time or in a digest. Any thoughts pro or con?
Unlike others that I am on, this one would be
untargeted. I'm thinking of calling it, "Anything Goes", or
"We Can Change the World". The only rule will be nothing
illegal may be posted, including harrasment of others on the list. On
the other hand, I would hope to generate controversial discussions
about things like music, religion and politics...and of course it would
include the usual jokes and innane flights of fancy.
What you guys think?
Neal
7/23/02 7:52:25 PM 205.188.209.140
Sounds good to me, VC
shemp larry
3stooges @aol.comedy
7/24/02 4:40:11 AM 80.26.140.189
Illegal stuff and
harrassment should first be discussed before deciding to keep them out
Von Cello
Maine-ly joking
7/25/02 1:56:00 AM 24.90.139.161
Speaking about
"stuff", when I was up in Maine, there was a store called,
"Old Stuff".
Another one was called, "Bark Harbor"
(it had dog items).
The owner had dog cups, dog plates, dog
statues...he even had a dog Menorah in the shape of a dachshund, which,
of course, Karen bought! She started joking with the owner that that
item had probably stood there for years (being that Bar Harbor is
mostly populated with WASP types). He said that most of his customers
had no idea what it was. He even overheard one conversation where a son
asked what it was and his mother said it was something to use for
birthday parties for dogs! :-)
steve
the dogma@muttmail.com
7/25/02 5:30:38 AM 80.26.140.189
Change the name to Bar
Mitsva Harbor .Actually, the dog menorah only should have one candle
since thats seven in dog years
Cleopatra Von Weasel
Publicity Hound
hellomuddahellofadda@campsheepshead.org
http://www.voncello.com/pictures_hound.html
7/25/02 12:49:40 PM 24.90.139.161
While my dad and mom were
galavanting all over Canada and Maine, I was stuck in Sheepshead Bay
with my dog sitter. That really bites! I must admit though that the
spagetti and ravlioli she gives me, kind of takes the edge off it. (And
there are some great pishies and doodies to smell around there!) I
heard my mom bought me dog cookies in the shape of a Lobster. What is a
Lobster anyway?
The end.
Evelyn, a Modified Dog
7/25/02 3:16:23 PM 12.146.203.100
Arf
Von Cello
Home and catching up on
stuff...
7/25/02 5:04:46 PM 24.90.139.161
Steve, you said Cathy Zori
was "most erotic girl i knew in those days". What did you
mean?
Neal, I remember those wacky sea lions in San
Francisco. Are you saying that most are gone? Does anyone know why they
left? Does it have anything to do with the death of Jerry Garcia?
Neal
Jerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyy!
7/25/02 6:53:33 PM 12.146.203.100
I don't know why the sea
lions left. The sign said they migrated down south for a bit.
Von Cello
Musician
7/26/02 12:13:29 PM 24.90.139.161
Neal, I think they're
heading to L.A. because the Dead broke up and there's more music
happening down there now. They really are party animals!
Speaking about music...I noticed on the radio
during my long trip that there is a talk show that uses a song from They
Might Be Giants as their theme.
I got to listen to a tape of the Chicago II album
on the trip. That is the double album set that includes that long
medley with songs like, "Make Me Smile" and "Color My
World". It also contains the tripped out, "25 or 6 to 4"
and other greats like, "Fancy Colors". There are many great
instrumentals inside and between tunes. It really is like Chicago's
"Sgt. Pepper", or "Abbey Road"!
I must say, I think it is one of the all time
great classic concept albums of rock history!!
Neal
conceptual continuity
7/26/02 2:29:14 PM 12.146.203.100
rock concept albums? hmm,
there have been quite a few of them. The Who's Tommy, Quadrophenia come
to mind. Zappa's Joe's Garage But I vote for a number of Kinks albums:
Preservation, especially.
Von Cello
Black out
7/26/02 4:46:15 PM 24.90.139.161
It's funny, but your post
makes me realize again that I have a rock music black out period that
started when I got serious about the cello and classical music. I'm
afraid I don't know those last 3 albums! I probably know a few songs,
but have never heard them all the way through. I'd like to though.
I guess it's pointless in a way to talk about
"the greatest" rock album, etc. I guess time will be the
final arbitor of what lasts. I'm amazed at how popular Led Zepplin has
become. I think, in some ways, they are more popular that ever. You
don't even hear the Beatles or Stones as much as them lately.
I have found Chicago II to be overlooked in most
top ten lists, but I was very impressed with it when I listened on my
trip. It's not just that the songs are good, but it's the way they go
from song to song, with all kinds of interesting instrumentals that
really got to me. It may also be that I have great memories associated
with it from when I was a teenager in sleep away camp.
I also love Zappa's Absolutely Free as a concept
album, and other greats are the Dead's Anthem of the Sun and Pink
Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. (These are all from my pre cello days.)
Once I got into classical music, I was amazed at the classical
"concept albums" like Beethoven's 9th and Mahler's 2nd.
Coltrane had some great ones like A Love Supreme and Crescent.
And who could forget Von Cello's Breaking the
Sound Barriers? :-)
Neal
7/26/02 6:17:20 PM 12.146.203.100
there are definitely many
good concept albums, even among classical and jazz. It is hard to say
what the "best" is, just what our favorites are. I think
memories associated with certain albums are very important, too. What I
am really amazed is the growing popularity of rap, of all things.
Von Cello
rap rap rap, they call him
the rapper
7/26/02 7:15:13 PM 24.90.139.161
Remember that tune?
I think rap may be actually getting less popular.
It was the highest selling genre recently, outselling rock and pop!
I can see why some are into it...but it's hard to
imagine that they will have fond memories of raps like we do for
melodic music. But who knows?
Somehow I think there must be a way to quantify
why one album is great and another average but in the end it doesn't
really change much. We live in a culture where someone can make up a
rap about abusing women or shooting cops and that will sell more
records than a beautiful cello sonata...
Like I said in my Cello Player's Rap: "You
play a drum machine, or Beethoven. They do not know the difference,
it's the same to them".
Von Cello
Von Cello
7/27/02 10:54:40 PM 24.90.139.161
I almost forgot to mention:
VON CELLO TONIGHT AT THE NIGHTLIGHT CAFE IN
SHEEPSHEAD BAY!
1 A.M. (You can still make it if you leave now!!)
1657 Sheepshead Bay Rd.
718-368-0280
Von Cello
Yo Brooklyn!
7/28/02 4:31:07 AM 24.90.139.161
The Brooklyn natives should
get a kick out of this one. I played in a bar that is just down the
street from the famous Wheelers. Do youse guys remember that place? I
never went there, but I remember hearing that name a million times. I
went to Captain Walters a few times, but I think that one closed.
Anyway, it was a real Brooklyn scene. This one
muscle bound tatooed guy in a tank top T shirt was telling a story
about how he keeps driving under the influence. He totaled his last SUV
by crashing into 5 parked cars. Now he has a new SUV. How do these guys
do it? There were other crazy stories, but the thing is, everyone just
talks to each other in the street! Remember that? I always liked that
about Brooklyn.
The gig went well. It was just cello and drums, but
I think we carried it off for the most part. The agent who booked us,
now wants to do more things, so we'll see where it can lead. A
photograper took 170 pictures of us, so he must think we're going
somewhere. Hey...Sheepshead Bay today, Coney Island tomorrow!
Neal
Yo
7/28/02 12:16:41 PM 205.188.209.140
Yo Ma.
Glad the gig went well, VC
Neal
not a rapper
7/29/02 1:33:45 PM 12.146.203.100
I think it's funny when
rappers yell out, "What's my name?" You mean...you don't know
what your own name is...?
Von Cello
Hey hey hey, got something
to say...
7/29/02 6:28:45 PM 24.90.139.161
I think a lot of what rap
has been about is people boasting about how cool they are, or how great
of a rapper they are. They are also into showing off their wealth with
big gold chains and sports cars, etc. It's the opposite message of the
music we grew up on where being cool meant not boasting, but fitting in
and downplaying your wealth.
Could you imagine Joan Baez or John Sebastian
going up to the mic and screaming, "What's my name?" :-)
Kid Rock
7/30/02 11:40:59 AM 12.146.203.100
What's my name? No,
seriously, I forgot, please help me.
Cathy Zori
chorus@bilderss .com
7/30/02 12:12:45 PM 62.42.228.6
When I say I thought she
was the mot erotic, I mean she had a very curvey figure and large
breasts and her butt pertruded out alot.I was only 14 and when she
walked,it was like a curve in motion.Most guys would stop dead talking
and just look at her pass.I mean 2 guys were fighting ;A guy Rosario
and Chickenowsky and when she went by ,they just stopped to watch .She
could have replaced kissinger as a peace maker. I think she recorded a
song 10 yrs ago then she went housewife and gave it up.
Von Cello
hot to trot
7/30/02 2:56:07 PM 24.90.139.161
Steve, yeah, that about
describes erotic! I don't remember her, but I bet if I saw a picture I
would. I like that story of the way she stopped a fight! That's vintage
Canarsie.
I remember some of the Canarsie girls wearing
really low cut pants, with their flat bellies showing, smoking
cigarettes. It took 30 years and Britney Spears to bring back the belly
button look. She doesn't do the cigarette thing though. Oh well, I
guess it's better for health...
Maybe the cell phone is the new erotic prop? But
you don't put it in and out of your mouth...and you can't blow smoke
rings with it.
Boy, those girls were so ahead of their time. No
wonder I got tongue tied around them!
Von Cello
creator of complexity where
none exists ;-)
7/31/02 4:07:34 PM 24.90.139.161
It's interesting that you
used the word erotic, as opposed to attractive. I wonder how this girl
would have reacted if she knew that guys were thinking of her as
"erotic".
This goes back to the old question of whether a
woman should have any responsibility for the reaction that she creates
by her dress. On the one hand, people should be able to dress how ever
they like. On the other hand, many young guys are walking raging
hormone machines and are very effected by a scantily clad woman or
girl. Sometimes a guy may want to have his head clear to think about an
important subject when suddenly a girl comes by dressed in a way that
can't help but make him think about sex. That, in a way, is an offense
to him. Yet some guys get that way from women dressed conservatively.
That is why this is such a complicated issue.
Different cultures handle this differently. You
have every extreme from European countries where women go topless in
public parks, to Muslim contries where they are covered head to toe! I
still don't know what is right or wrong on this issue...though I lean
towards freedom.
Von Cello
not as old as these guys...
7/31/02 4:13:35 PM 24.90.139.161
This just in:
Re-released Hits for Aging Rockers
- Paul Simon -"Fifty Ways to Lose Your
Liver"
- Carly Simon -"You're So Varicose,
Vein"
- The Bee Gees -"How Can You Mend a Broken
Hip"
- Roberta Flack -"The First Time Ever I
Forgot Your Face"
- Johnny Nash -"I Can't See Clearly Now"
- The Temptations -"Papa Got a Kidney
Stone"
- Nancy Sinatra -"These Boots Give Me
Arthritis"
- ABBA -"Denture Queen"
- Leo Sayer -"You Make Me Feel Like
Napping"
- Commodores -"Once, Twice, Three Trips to
the Bathroom"
- Procul Harem -"A Whiter Shade of Hair"
- The Beatles -"I Get By with a Little Help
From Depends"
- Steely Dan -"Rikki Don't Lose Your Car
Keys"
- Herman's Hermits -"Mrs. Brown, You've Got a
Lovely Walker"
- The Rolling Stones -"You Can't Always Pee
When You Want"
- Credence Clearwater Revival -"Bad Prune
Rising"
- Marvin Gaye -"I Heard It Through the Grape
Nuts"
- The Who -"Talkin' 'Bout My Medication"
- The Troggs -"Bald Thing"
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